WOKE up this morning ....

[Repat Van]

Jan 21, 2019 10:34:37 GMT mids said:

I say whites when talking about the victims of the South African genocide.

You cried when apartheid ended didn’t you. No more paradises for you on the planet!

[mids]

I'm too young to remember the end of apartheid.

[Repat Van]

That’s the funniest thing you’ve said on this board.

[Deleted]

I'm too old to remember apartheid. Anything actually.

[voice]

Reminds of the best title ever for a memoir 'My Name Escapes Me' by Alec Guinness.

[mids]

Jan 21, 2019 8:59:32 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

White US privileged mentality at work.

Turns out to be a very, very selective video.

www.spiked-online.com/2019/01/21/this-is-a-new-low-for-the-twittermob/

[voice]

good opinion piece on this from an unlikely source

OPINION: Sometimes every side is a little bit of a dickhead


both sides of an argument can arseholes
My, my, there’s a punchable face.

I mean I don’t know anything about this kid beyond the fact that he’s a Trump supporter (going by the hat) and he’s rich enough to put out a statement through a PR firm, which makes me hate him even more out of nothing more than simple envy, but Jesus, look at him. Somebody went to the Martin Shkreli school of unlikable smiling.

The kid’s name is Nathan Sandmann. He spells “Sandman” with an extra “n” because he’s richer than you; not that it matters too much as we’re calling him That Nazi With The Eyebrows now.

Look at him grinning in the face of that Native American who also happens to be a Vietnam war veteran (his name is Nathan Phillips). Everything I’m seeing in this 30 second video makes me want to thump this kid back to the 1950s where his political views definitely probably come from, judging by his hat, which is all I’ve got to go on.

However…

Additional footage seems to show that Captain Fuckwit and his fellow students from the School for Rich Christian Bastards didn’t actually swarm around Mr. Phillips, they were there already and the elder approached them with a drum, apparently trying to diffuse tension between the students and a nearby group of protesters calling themselves “Hebrew Israelites” who had earlier been shouting abuse at both the students AND Native Americans.

So Nathan Phillips wasn’t surrounded, he got involved in an attempt to diffuse tension, which is admirable, but banging a drum in someone’s face while singing a song might not be the best way to do that, otherwise every pub in the UK would keep several drums behind the bar. The footage suggests that Phillips could have walked around Sandmann if he felt he wanted to leave the scene, but chose not to. There’s no video evidence of anybody chanting “build that wall” either. sh*t. This just got a little more complicated.

So…what?

Oh bloody hell one of these people MUST be the dickhead, right? Please tell me it’s the mega-thingy in the MAGA hat, I really want it to be him. Or the “Hebrew Isrealites” who kicked everything off? I’d settle for that. It can’t be the Native American elder, I’d feel a right fool if it was him.

…actually hang on, what if I don’t have to pick one?

What if we conclude that everybody is at least a BIT of a dickhead here?

The “Hebrew-Israelites” are straightforwardly dickheads for shouting obscenities at nearly everybody else.

The kid is a bit of a dickhead for grinning like a patronizing sh*t-eater at an older gentleman and not getting out of the way.

The Native American elder, Nathan Phillips, is a bit of a dickhead for wading into an argument and banging a drum in someone’s face while apparently thinking that’s a thing that calms most people down.

I’M a bit of a dickhead for initially accepting a short video clip as the full story just because I so badly wanted the rich kid in the MAGA hat to be the only dickhead here, when it seems there was more to it.

I really, REALLY wanted the kid to be the only dickhead here. But he isn’t.

Sometimes, every side is a little bit of a dickhead.

[mids]

But as Brendan "Truth" O'Neill points out, they're children. The others are adults.

[Deleted]

On this site we comment on what we see and read in the news. No big deal really. If we read war's been declared in Bhutan we comment on it. If later it transpires that war wasn't declared, so what?

[mids]

Fair enough but it's probably unwise to trust the Guardian.

[Deleted]

True. Or any news source actually. Virtual reality, cor, I dunno. What's the world coming to?

[wetkingcanute]

I realise that this is very easy for me to say now - but when I first saw that video I wondered if there was more to it.

It is so easy to join the mob.

good post voice.

[flatandy]

So, Kentucky Catholic teen MAGA arseholes were trying to start a fight with a different ethnic group and this bloke tried to ease tensions, and the end result was that he got a faceful of Kentucky Catholic teen MAGA arsehole being racist

And we're meant to interpret that the racist MAGA teens arseholes and the native American bloke who tried to defuse tension (in an admittedly spectacularly daft way) are equally at fault?

[mids]

"that Native American who also happens to be a Vietnam war veteran (his name is Nathan Phillips)"

Most of the lefties who were taken in by this and are lauding Phillips would have spit in his face and called him a baby killer on his return from Vietnam. (age difference aside).

[mids]

Jan 21, 2019 20:37:16 GMT flatandy said:

So, Kentucky Catholic teen MAGA arseholes were trying to start a fight with a different ethnic group and this bloke tried to ease tensions, and the end result was that he got a faceful of Kentucky Catholic teen MAGA arsehole being racist

And we're meant to interpret that the racist MAGA teens arseholes and the native American bloke who tried to defuse tension (in an admittedly spectacularly daft way) are equally at fault?

Nah (again). Schoolchildren waiting on their school bus were harassed and harangued by a hate group who called them faggots and, oddly, the product of sodomy incest as well as denouncing gays generally. The schoolchildren responded by doing one of their school chants. Then the Indians marched up to the kids, all the while drumming, and got right in their faces and kept drumming an inch from this kid's nose. The Indian dudes claimed it was to make peace although you'd think they'd want to drum and chant at the hate group who are genuine, nasty nutcases. In the aftermath of all this, the highly edited video causes outrage on twitter with calls of violence against the kids. Even after the full video and the truth comes out however, there are some creepy lefties who insist on their weird fantasy of schoolkids harassing an old Indian man.

[rick49]

"(And who on earth says “blacks” - Jesus man it’s 2019, they are people.)"

Oh, my,,,did I offend? (i hope so) Who says blacks? Hmmm,,,virtually everybody? Including blacks? Pray tell, what is the current politically correct term, which will probably be obsolete a week from now.

[rick49]

Jan 21, 2019 20:53:56 GMT mids said:

"that Native American who also happens to be a Vietnam war veteran (his name is Nathan Phillips)"

Most of the lefties who were taken in by this and are lauding Phillips would have spit in his face and called him a baby killer on his return from Vietnam. (age difference aside).

Ain't that the truth? They will use him as a tool for awhile, then toss him aside when his usefulness to them ends.

[flatandy]

Jan 21, 2019 22:55:31 GMT rick49 said:

Ain't that the truth? They will use him as a tool for awhile, then toss him aside when his usefulness to them ends.

Just like the US military did with its conscripted cannon fodder after Vietnam?

[Repat Van]

Jan 21, 2019 22:45:45 GMT rick49 said:

"(And who on earth says “blacks” - Jesus man it’s 2019, they are people.)"

Oh, my,,,did I offend? (i hope so) Who says blacks? Hmmm,,,virtually everybody? Including blacks? Pray tell, what is the current politically correct term, which will probably be obsolete a week from now.

“Virtually everybody”?

Citation please.

[Repat Van]

Jan 21, 2019 19:16:35 GMT voice said:

good opinion piece on this from an unlikely source

OPINION: Sometimes every side is a little bit of a dickhead


both sides of an argument can arseholes
My, my, there’s a punchable face.

I mean I don’t know anything about this kid beyond the fact that he’s a Trump supporter (going by the hat) and he’s rich enough to put out a statement through a PR firm, which makes me hate him even more out of nothing more than simple envy, but Jesus, look at him. Somebody went to the Martin Shkreli school of unlikable smiling.

The kid’s name is Nathan Sandmann. He spells “Sandman” with an extra “n” because he’s richer than you; not that it matters too much as we’re calling him That Nazi With The Eyebrows now.

Look at him grinning in the face of that Native American who also happens to be a Vietnam war veteran (his name is Nathan Phillips). Everything I’m seeing in this 30 second video makes me want to thump this kid back to the 1950s where his political views definitely probably come from, judging by his hat, which is all I’ve got to go on.

However…

Additional footage seems to show that Captain Fuckwit and his fellow students from the School for Rich Christian Bastards didn’t actually swarm around Mr. Phillips, they were there already and the elder approached them with a drum, apparently trying to diffuse tension between the students and a nearby group of protesters calling themselves “Hebrew Israelites” who had earlier been shouting abuse at both the students AND Native Americans.

So Nathan Phillips wasn’t surrounded, he got involved in an attempt to diffuse tension, which is admirable, but banging a drum in someone’s face while singing a song might not be the best way to do that, otherwise every pub in the UK would keep several drums behind the bar. The footage suggests that Phillips could have walked around Sandmann if he felt he wanted to leave the scene, but chose not to. There’s no video evidence of anybody chanting “build that wall” either. sh*t. This just got a little more complicated.

So…what?

Oh bloody hell one of these people MUST be the dickhead, right? Please tell me it’s the mega-thingy in the MAGA hat, I really want it to be him. Or the “Hebrew Isrealites” who kicked everything off? I’d settle for that. It can’t be the Native American elder, I’d feel a right fool if it was him.

…actually hang on, what if I don’t have to pick one?

What if we conclude that everybody is at least a BIT of a dickhead here?

The “Hebrew-Israelites” are straightforwardly dickheads for shouting obscenities at nearly everybody else.

The kid is a bit of a dickhead for grinning like a patronizing sh*t-eater at an older gentleman and not getting out of the way.

The Native American elder, Nathan Phillips, is a bit of a dickhead for wading into an argument and banging a drum in someone’s face while apparently thinking that’s a thing that calms most people down.

I’M a bit of a dickhead for initially accepting a short video clip as the full story just because I so badly wanted the rich kid in the MAGA hat to be the only dickhead here, when it seems there was more to it.

I really, REALLY wanted the kid to be the only dickhead here. But he isn’t.

Sometimes, every side is a little bit of a dickhead.

Also all the teachers of the school are dickheads for organising kids to call for stripping women’s bodily autonomy away from them.

And of course the kids are dickheads too just for wearing a MAGA hat but they have time to grow out of that.