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Post by flatandy on May 2, 2024 19:54:06 GMT
Astonishingly, this doesn't appear to be a spoof.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2024 16:51:41 GMT
Coming to a country near you. "1. Apologise for your comments greenlighting a genocide and for not backing the ceasefire in Oct/Nov 2023 2. Sanctions on companies operating in occupied territories. Sanctions on settlers 3. Recognise Palestine as a state 4. Travel ban on all Israeli politicians that prosecuted this war and support the illegal occupation 5. End military ties with Israel 6. Issue guidance that Muslims are allowed to pray at school 7. Implement findings of people’s review of Prevent — not Shawcross 8. Remove the extremism definition that [Michael] Gove introduced 9. Commit to full implementation of Royal Charter re media regulation 10. Adopt the APPG definition of Islamophobia 11. Commit to a review of public sector equality duty 12. Increase council and public health funding for the 10 per cent most deprived areas in the country to finally address systemic and chronic health inequities as detailed in the Marmot Review and revisited by the Health Foundation 10 years later 13. Deliver alternative student finance 14. Ensure Sharia-compliant pensions are available at every workplace, so the one-third of Muslims without a pension get one 15. Ensure insurance quotes don’t cost more for someone called “Muhammad” 16. Commit 7 per cent of the local government pension scheme/public sector pensions to ethical and Islamic funds 17. Oppose Boycott, Divestment and Sanction (BDS) bill. Kick it out of law 18. Remove the archaic “spiritual influence” offence from statute" www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-keir-starmer-muslim-gaza-israel-palestine-b2540759.html |
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2024 17:23:16 GMT
Most of those seem reasonable enough. Not sure about 6, but should be comparable with what Christians do. Not sure what 13 means. Not sure what 14 is about. 16 looks weird, what have ethical and Islamic got to do with each other?
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2024 17:31:19 GMT
It all seems a bit childish and needy.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2024 17:33:02 GMT
I'm sure there must be loads of countries where all of those conditions are already satisfied or moot. They should go there.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2024 17:45:34 GMT
Most of those seem reasonable enough. Not sure about 6, but should be comparable with what Christians do. Not sure what 13 means. Not sure what 14 is about. 16 looks weird, what have ethical and Islamic got to do with each other? Are you happy that religious demands are acceded to by governments? |
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Post by mids on May 7, 2024 17:49:52 GMT
18 is that it's an offence to tell people they'll go to hell or otherwise be spiritually compromised if they do or don't vote a certain way in elections. Seems reasonable to me although I can see why the Muzzoleft are against it.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2024 18:09:21 GMT
That's a cuntish thing to do, but, you know, Freeze Peach and all that.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2024 18:10:27 GMT
Are you happy that religious demands are acceded to by governments? Are you opposed to all demands made by all religious groups, even if they're things like "don't rape children"? |
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Post by mids on May 7, 2024 18:25:59 GMT
It seems obvious that the left are desperate to give in to these demands. We must combat the 18 demands.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2024 18:41:10 GMT
Yes, combat 18. That's the way forward.
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Post by Repat Van on May 8, 2024 6:09:34 GMT
Coming to a country near you. "1. Apologise for your comments greenlighting a genocide and for not backing the ceasefire in Oct/Nov 2023 2. Sanctions on companies operating in occupied territories. Sanctions on settlers 3. Recognise Palestine as a state 4. Travel ban on all Israeli politicians that prosecuted this war and support the illegal occupation 5. End military ties with Israel 6. Issue guidance that Muslims are allowed to pray at school 7. Implement findings of people’s review of Prevent — not Shawcross 8. Remove the extremism definition that [Michael] Gove introduced 9. Commit to full implementation of Royal Charter re media regulation 10. Adopt the APPG definition of Islamophobia 11. Commit to a review of public sector equality duty 12. Increase council and public health funding for the 10 per cent most deprived areas in the country to finally address systemic and chronic health inequities as detailed in the Marmot Review and revisited by the Health Foundation 10 years later 13. Deliver alternative student finance 14. Ensure Sharia-compliant pensions are available at every workplace, so the one-third of Muslims without a pension get one 15. Ensure insurance quotes don’t cost more for someone called “Muhammad” 16. Commit 7 per cent of the local government pension scheme/public sector pensions to ethical and Islamic funds 17. Oppose Boycott, Divestment and Sanction (BDS) bill. Kick it out of law 18. Remove the archaic “spiritual influence” offence from statute" www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-keir-starmer-muslim-gaza-israel-palestine-b2540759.html*Shrugs* Freeze Peach - people can ask for what they like. Doesn’t mean they will get it. |
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Post by Repat Van on May 8, 2024 6:10:54 GMT
Number 15 made me LOL - that has to be a joke right?
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2024 12:44:47 GMT
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Post by moggyonspeed on May 8, 2024 12:52:17 GMT
I think Starmer should push back at those Tories who want to defect (probably because they know the game's up).
I think a tagline such as "STOP THE SCROTES" sums it up nicely.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 8, 2024 13:57:17 GMT
I hadn't realised that she'd stepped into her dickhead husband's shoes. How very vulgar.
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2024 14:38:48 GMT
More from a Labour Party spokesman now on Natalie Elphicke's defection from the Conservatives.
Pressed on whether all Labour MPs are happy with her joining the party, he says "it's a sign of the progress that we've made".
WTF?
It's a sign of the progress we've made on being more like the Tory Party? Of being the kind of party that grim racist Tory MPs feel like they have a natural home?
WTF?
Is there anyone Starmer wouldn't accept? He'd probably take Rees-Mogg and Farage and Susan Hall tomorrow if they defected and not even vaguely understand that it would be a damning indictment of him
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Post by mids on May 8, 2024 14:45:07 GMT
She didn't have the high moral standards required of the Tories so has had to seek asylum in Labour.
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Post by moggyonspeed on May 8, 2024 14:49:22 GMT
Agree.
I think that oft-quoted Groucho Marx witticism, "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them ... well, I have others" may well have been dreamt up for the Elphickes of this world. Serious point though is that allowing the likes of Elphicke inside the Labour Party is somewhat akin to letting a fox into the henhouse; Starmer needs to tread carefully here.
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