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Post by whiterum on May 7, 2021 7:27:43 GMT
It's freezing outside, that's what the Tories are good at.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 7:37:16 GMT
Put a jumper on then and enjoy your new freedom from Labour tyranny.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2021 7:38:14 GMT
It's freezing outside, that's what the Tories are good at. Reversing global warming? Well done Boris! I thought that was next month's project, once you've finished defeating the global pandemic and local pestilence, such as the French.
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Post by reverend on May 7, 2021 7:40:08 GMT
Labour need to ditch the identity politics and get back to treating British working class voters as British irrespective of what they look like!
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 11:58:44 GMT
Starmer has been playing identity politics since he became leader. It’s all flag waving St George man in pub white English nationalism signalling. Which is a ridiculous thing for him because everyone who wants that nonsense already has a whole bunch of parties to support, and they don’t want a Labour Party that does it half-heartedly.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 12:23:37 GMT
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on May 7, 2021 12:50:13 GMT
Labour need to go back to appealing to their core support of middle class students and luvvies.
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Post by reverend on May 7, 2021 12:55:34 GMT
Starmer has been playing identity politics since he became leader. It’s all flag waving St George man in pub white English nationalism signalling. Which is a ridiculous thing for him because everyone who wants that nonsense already has a whole bunch of parties to support, and they don’t want a Labour Party that does it half-heartedly. delusional again I see!
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Post by unclejunior on May 7, 2021 14:25:09 GMT
.....didnt know that Starmer had a recent meeting with Boris...!
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Post by ootlg on May 7, 2021 15:06:24 GMT
It's about immigration. England's become a populist country.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 15:09:27 GMT
Popular? Cool!
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Post by voice on May 7, 2021 16:38:27 GMT
Khan looks like he's gonna hold London.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2021 17:00:23 GMT
.....didnt know that Starmer had a recent meeting with Boris...! Boris: "You don't need to kneel Kier. Stand, please .... oh, you have."
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Post by reverend on May 7, 2021 18:23:21 GMT
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 18:37:32 GMT
Spot on. Labour have been mostly going on about how nobody really knows what they stand for. As if their message isn't quite getting through (because, of course, of the right wing press). Labour's problem though, is that people know exactly what they stand for and many people just don't like it.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2021 18:50:33 GMT
That, and Labour is inherently shite. It's based on a wicked deception called socialism and relies on promising everyone a solid gold unicorn that they know they can't deliver. What's worse is that they rely on telling different groups that they understand why they need a bigger, better more golden unicorn more than others, sooner.
In short, they are frauds, preying on the needy, the thick and the pious.
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Post by ootlg on May 8, 2021 5:46:44 GMT
Unfortunately you're right. I say unfortunately because good strong opposition's essential in parliament. They've failed to offer this because they've lost direction - which should be to check the imbalance of wealth in the country.
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2021 11:15:56 GMT
One of the weird things I’ve seen over the last couple of days is lots of people giving advice to Labour. Yet those people are people whose goal is to make sure Labour never wins - Tory MPs, Telegraph journalists, right wing talking heads. And even weirder is Labour MPs retweeting that advice as if it’s sincere and should be taken seriously.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on May 8, 2021 11:30:31 GMT
I think they should bring back Corbyn. he was a shoe in but for shagging that one little sheep.
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Post by flatandy on May 8, 2021 11:47:11 GMT
Corbyn was rubbish. It's just that his rubbishness wasn't the reasons that are being made out by the disingenuous Labour Right. It wasn't because he was an antisemite, and it wasn't because he wasn't tritely nationalistic and flag-wavey enough.
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