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Post by whitewine on Sept 15, 2020 13:04:47 GMT
Applications will open next week for the first UK undergraduate degree in black studies, which will begin enrolment in September 2017 at Birmingham City University (BCU). While those of us running the course are proud that it is the first of its kind, the fact that it has never been done before demonstrates the crisis at the heart of British academia. Black studies is an interdisciplinary subject that focuses attention on the experiences, perspectives and contributions of people from the African diaspora. It emerged in the US in the 1960s, when a more diverse student body insisted that their experiences and traditions be included on the curriculum. Dr Nathan Hare, who was one of the pioneers of black studies at San Francisco State College, explained that the “battle” for black studies was “a mass struggle based on the notion that education belongs to the people”. After protests, boycotts and occupations across the nation, black studies earned its rightful place on campus and has become embedded into the fabric of US higher education ever since. LINK
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Post by mids on Sept 15, 2020 13:07:09 GMT
"black studies".
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Post by perrykneeham on Sept 15, 2020 14:40:36 GMT
Criminology.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 16, 2020 1:14:37 GMT
Applications will open next week for the first UK undergraduate degree in black studies, which will begin enrolment in September 2017 at Birmingham City University (BCU). While those of us running the course are proud that it is the first of its kind, the fact that it has never been done before demonstrates the crisis at the heart of British academia. Black studies is an interdisciplinary subject that focuses attention on the experiences, perspectives and contributions of people from the African diaspora. It emerged in the US in the 1960s, when a more diverse student body insisted that their experiences and traditions be included on the curriculum. Dr Nathan Hare, who was one of the pioneers of black studies at San Francisco State College, explained that the “battle” for black studies was “a mass struggle based on the notion that education belongs to the people”. After protests, boycotts and occupations across the nation, black studies earned its rightful place on campus and has become embedded into the fabric of US higher education ever since. LINKUnless you’re studying fashion there is no need to go to the former UCE. Terrible uni.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 16, 2020 1:17:48 GMT
University has required study elements for one of its courses. This is an issue because...?
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Post by rick49 on Sept 16, 2020 1:47:45 GMT
it,s racist. how about a university that says it won't accept astronomy students if they don't have an interest in black lesbians in nepal? what business does a university have in telling incoming students (say english majors) what they are required to have to be interested in before they can take an english class?
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Post by flatandy on Sept 16, 2020 1:58:09 GMT
If someone said they were going to ignore any new research that happened to be done by black Nepalese lesbian astronomers, just because they we’re black lNepalese lesbians, then yes. They should be excluded.
Do you think an astronomer should be employed if they were unwilling to, say, use papers authored by Jewish scientists?
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 16, 2020 4:29:14 GMT
it,s racist. how about a university that says it won't accept astronomy students if they don't have an interest in black lesbians in nepal? what business does a university have in telling incoming students (say english majors) what they are required to have to be interested in before they can take an english class? It’s racist to have required study modules? Ok.
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Post by mids on Sept 16, 2020 7:20:22 GMT
Why do universities have racist courses like black studies?
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Post by rick49 on Sept 16, 2020 12:30:41 GMT
Why do universities have racist courses like black studies? beats me. i guess they think blacks are special or superior.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 16, 2020 12:46:25 GMT
It’s racist to have required study modules?
Ok.
no. but they aren't doing that. they are telling prospective english majors what they must be interested in. if a student wants to take an english class, but is not interested in black studies, they will be denied entry to an english class.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 16, 2020 12:54:25 GMT
It’s racist to have required study modules?
Ok.no. but they aren't doing that. they are telling prospective english majors what they must be interested in. if a student wants to take an english class, but is not interested in black studies, they will be denied entry to an english class. “Telling people what they must be interested in” So like having certain required modules on a degree program. Got it.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 16, 2020 13:00:07 GMT
Actually it’s not even like required modules. The university doesn’t seem to suggest students will be required to involve themselves in such activities.
Their language isn’t specific as to what this:
“ For the 2020-2021 graduate admissions cycle, the University of Chicago English Department is accepting only applicants interested in working in and with Black Studies. We understand Black Studies to be a capacious intellectual project that spans a variety of methodological approaches, fields, geographical areas, languages, and time periods. ”
It could mean they are not interested in students who overtly demonstrate a lack of interest. It doesn’t seem to enforce that they select modules from various classes that fall under the banner of Black Studies.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 16, 2020 13:06:44 GMT
If someone said they were going to ignore any new research that happened to be done by black Nepalese lesbian astronomers, just because they we’re black lNepalese lesbians, then yes. They should be excluded. Do you think an astronomer should be employed if they were unwilling to, say, use papers authored by Jewish scientists? not the same. people are interested in lots of things, and not interested in lots of things. i had to take a political science class once. bored the hell out of me and i hated it. but it was a required course so i gritted my teeth and bumbled through it. but the school didn't order me to be interested in political science before i could take other courses. big difference. schools have no business telling students what they must be interested in before they can take a course. if a black studies course is a requirement, thats one thing. telling a student what they must be interested in is another thing.
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Post by voice on Sept 16, 2020 18:17:45 GMT
Actually it’s not even like required modules. The university doesn’t seem to suggest students will be required to involve themselves in such activities. you're making the assumption the bullsh!t article the idiot posted this from was in any way accurate, clearly its not, but then the target audience for such risible propaganda is not rational people who can critically think these things through, its idiots who need a daily dose of outrage to get themselves all het up about.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 16, 2020 22:22:23 GMT
Rick would be happy for graduate students in physics to explicitly say they have no interest in any science that's ever been done by white people. That the research they would do would completely ignore any of whitey's science that has gone before. He thinks it's reasonable for graduate students to explicitly state a complete lack of interest in work done by any race that the racist student wishes to ignore.
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Post by Repat Van on Sept 16, 2020 23:27:41 GMT
Actually it’s not even like required modules. The university doesn’t seem to suggest students will be required to involve themselves in such activities. you're making the assumption the bullsh!t article the idiot posted this from was in any way accurate, clearly its not, but then the target audience for such risible propaganda is not rational people who can critically think these things through, its idiots who need a daily dose of outrage to get themselves all het up about. There is a link to the Chicago website so I read that. It still does provide much information on what that actually looks like in practice.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 17, 2020 1:36:59 GMT
Rick would be happy for graduate students in physics to explicitly say they have no interest in any science that's ever been done by white people. That the research they would do would completely ignore any of whitey's science that has gone before. He thinks it's reasonable for graduate students to explicitly state a complete lack of interest in work done by any race that the racist student wishes to ignore. forcing someone to be interested in something they have no interest in will make them interested in it. got it.
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Post by rick49 on Sept 17, 2020 1:40:20 GMT
and you would force a physics applicant, say sheldon cooper, to take a black studies course or deny him from studying physics.
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Post by flatandy on Sept 17, 2020 2:00:05 GMT
I assume that he wouldn’t ignore research done by someone just because of their race.
If he would ignore it I’d totally not give him a research job.
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