Living Planet

[Repat Van]

Sept 13, 2024 9:42:51 GMT mids said:

Anyway, there's fuckall wrong with the kid that a bit of fatherly discipline couldn't put right.

I know in Mids Victorian world, cognitive disorders don’t exist but given that their child was diagnosed when they were still together you are, as always, very wrong on the topic.

[flatandy]

Sept 13, 2024 9:06:27 GMT perrykneeham said:

Her son, 13, has been diagnosed with autism, ADHD and OCD and he struggled to adapt with the transition from primary to secondary school.

It's weird the way they phrased this. As if it's the diagnosing rather than the condition that created the problem.

[Repat Van]

Sept 13, 2024 13:39:05 GMT flatandy said:

Sept 13, 2024 9:06:27 GMT perrykneeham said:

Her son, 13, has been diagnosed with autism, ADHD and OCD and he struggled to adapt with the transition from primary to secondary school.

It's weird the way they phrased this. As if it's the diagnosing rather than the condition that created the problem.

I read that as it was the transition from primary to secondary that caused the problem.

[happyhammerhead]

That is quite common. My younger brother suffers from Asperger's and it wasn't apparent until he left Primary school.

It's often about relationships. At Primary they are simple (I like this person, I don't like this person) but they become much more complex and when you throw hormones into the mix it can become overwhelming.

Certainly was for my brother and I've observed it in many others.

[perrykneeham]

The World can be a bloody hard, grim old place sometimes ....

"Isata, a single mother in her early twenties, epitomises the horrors of the lives of sex workers in Sierra Leone.

She has been beaten, robbed, kidnapped, trafficked to another country, rescued, trafficked and rescued again.

Amidst all of this, she became hooked on a dangerous street drug, kush, that is wreaking havoc in the West African nation."
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwyw8xgeyq3o

[mids]

"BBC Africa Eye"

I wonder if there's a BBC Japanese Eye?

[mids]

What a f**king grim existence though.

[Repat Van]

The customers of that trade need shooting in the head.

[mids]

Or brought here to live.

[perrykneeham]

I have met blokes who have used prostitutes. There's something wrong with 'em.

I know times have changed, but I don't think I would ever have thought it was okay. Maybe pier pressure or cultural norms allow people to bend their morality. Not me. It's just grim.

[flatandy]

Even at my teenage horniest it always seemed gross and unpleasant as a concept, and that was before we all expected them to be HIV positive. Even with the ones who are not trafficked and are reliably non-diseased and not utterly grim and trampy and not awash with their previous client's fluids, it seems an odd thing for a bloke to do.

No judgement on women who make a living that way - if you're happy to and it's a good living and you're not being forced or coerced, then go ahead. It's the men who use them that I find weird.

[Repat Van]

I will never get how you can be comfortable having sex with somebody knowing the only reason they are there is money. It is so odd to me.

And a lot of these men don’t bother doing any due diligence they just want to get their dicks wet (and some of them prefer illegal establishments / trafficked women imo because it gives them more control.)

[Repat Van]

Sept 16, 2024 13:49:08 GMT mids said:

Or brought here to live.

Nurse!!

[perrykneeham]

"On a cold winter’s day in June 2002, an intellectually disabled teenage girl disappeared from the New South Wales Riverina without a trace.

Since then, the mystery of what happened to Amber Haigh has captivated the vast Australian farming region, due to a stunning allegation: that the 19-year-old was killed by the father of her five-month-old baby and his wife, so that they could take her child."

www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1l44j5jzzyo.amp

All that fuss, and still they got it wrong. There's no way that bloke's innocent. Look at him.

[perrykneeham]

Sept 16, 2024 14:27:27 GMT flatandy said:

Even at my teenage horniest it always seemed gross and unpleasant as a concept, and that was before we all expected them to be HIV positive. Even with the ones who are not trafficked and are reliably non-diseased and not utterly grim and trampy and not awash with their previous client's fluids, it seems an odd thing for a bloke to do.

No judgement on women who make a living that way - if you're happy to and it's a good living and you're not being forced or coerced, then go ahead. It's the men who use them that I find weird.

It's one of those real dividing issues, isn't it?  I had mates that went into the army after school and were quite casual about the fact that a night out with other young officers might well end up in the local eros centre.  I was disappointed, although I knew it went on, and I lost respect for them.  They weren't the people I thought they were and still aren't  (at least one of them is a very senior police officer these days).  Youthful indiscretion?  Nah.  They would have been mortified if their families knew then, and they would be now.  So, why do it?  We're none of us made of wood, but some standards can never be relaxed.

[voice]

I shared a house with a bloke who once or twice a year went to Amsterdam to use prostitutes. He kept badgering me to go, but no way, from what my limited experience of these things tells me, almost all the women are forced either by poverty, circumstances or cohesion into the sex trade, and even the ones who've accepted it as way of life almost certainly didn't say at careas day at school "my goal in life to be sold to men for their pleasure".

[perrykneeham]

Yeah, the "happy hooker" is a dangerous, if convenient, myth. That's not just my opinion, but one that I've heard from women with experience of sex work.

[Repat Van]

I definitely know “Happy Hookers” (and even one woman who switched career from hairdressing to full service sex work).

Well maybe not “happy” but they view it the same way I view my job in that if I won the lottery I would not be there.

But there are so many many many others who are not. And the punters seem to care little about discerning between the two.

[mids]

"sex work"

[mids]

I dunno. I'm in two minds. If women want to be hoors then fine, I can't see what's wrong with the act, but there's a lot of associated criminality and shitiness that goes along with it. Is it worse than selling your body for other forms of work? I'm not sure.