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Post by ootlg on Dec 1, 2022 10:48:42 GMT
Hasn't he been arrested for mincing about in public?
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Post by voice on Dec 1, 2022 21:06:40 GMT
good few games today and a few more shocks, Belgium, supposedly second fave to win, out, Germany out, Spain on the edge of going out, only to be saved by Germany. Japans second goal was fantastic.
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Post by unclejunior on Dec 1, 2022 21:52:59 GMT
Germany aren’t just out , they’re out out…!
Where was the Russian linesman when they needed him to say the ball was “over the line”?
I would say I’m experiencing “ schadenfreude” but unfortunately I can’t spell it ….😊
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Post by moggyonspeed on Dec 2, 2022 15:23:57 GMT
You've made a damned-good fist of it, sir.
To spare mids' and baloo's blushes, perhaps I should rephrase that ...
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Post by ootlg on Dec 2, 2022 16:50:55 GMT
The set-up's weird though. Tunisia ran rings around France (admittedly its second team) but are out.
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 2, 2022 16:51:47 GMT
Tournament sport.
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Post by voice on Dec 2, 2022 19:05:22 GMT
It was nice to see Korea beat Portugal.
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Post by flatandy on Dec 2, 2022 21:39:06 GMT
It was nice to see Luis Suarez in tears.
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Post by voice on Dec 3, 2022 18:34:07 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 3, 2022 18:47:24 GMT
He's had a good innings. Life well led.
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Post by flatandy on Dec 3, 2022 18:52:18 GMT
His stock has fallen quite dramatically in recent years. Too much god-bothering and too much selling out as a commercial shill, and (parts of) the football supporting public - particularly those like me who never saw him play live - begin to get a more dim view of the bloke.
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Post by voice on Dec 3, 2022 18:52:45 GMT
Yeah, great life lived.
He once advertised viagra, and in a while he'll be very stiff.
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Post by unclejunior on Dec 3, 2022 19:09:28 GMT
Met Pele in a Bar in NYC on Wall St back in 81…was with another English footie fan and we wondered out loud if that was really him …. he was in a group of Blazered Brazilians suited & booted.
An official with the group heard us & asked if we would like to meet him properly .
We were nearly speechless as he came over & started chatting in broken English about how much he admired Bobby Moore & asking who we supported etc
None of the Yanks around us had a clue who he was…and after a few mins he left to attend a meeting & left us his autograph .
The friend , who we knew from London we were both waiting for arrived & we told him the story…. He was gutted that he missed the great man & so we gave him the autograph which he has framed at his house still …!
Great player & member of probably one of the greatest teams of all time Brazil 70….
Good luck 🤞
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Post by mids on Dec 3, 2022 19:21:15 GMT
Great story.
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Post by unclejunior on Dec 3, 2022 19:58:36 GMT
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 3, 2022 20:45:41 GMT
His stock has fallen quite dramatically in recent years. Too much god-bothering and too much selling out as a commercial shill, and (parts of) the football supporting public - particularly those like me who never saw him play live - begin to get a more dim view of the bloke. Has it though? A bloke being true to his religious convictions? TBH, I think it's a minority position to take against the bloke. I'm not a football fan, not Brasilian and not catholic. He'll always be an icon to me, in the absence of any grown-up reason to slag the bloke off. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 3, 2022 20:55:22 GMT
Seems like a good man to me. Godspeed. We need more like him.
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Post by voice on Dec 3, 2022 20:59:27 GMT
His biggest blemish would be his close association with the military dictatorships in 70s Brazil.
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Post by perrykneeham on Dec 3, 2022 21:33:32 GMT
His biggest blemish would be his close association with the military dictatorships in 70s Brazil. And even that sounds like utter bollocks: "In 1970, Pelé was investigated by the Brazilian military dictatorship for suspected leftist sympathies. Declassified documents showed Pelé was investigated after being handed a manifesto calling for the release of political prisoners. Pelé himself did not get further involved within political struggles in the country." Iconoclasm. A nasty, ungenerous, pinched trait of the lib/left. Gittishness. |
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Post by flatandy on Dec 3, 2022 22:09:22 GMT
Oddly the attempt to tar him with the 70s dictatorships always felt like a stretch: "Did you know? Did you criticise?" stuff, to which the answer is obviously yes and no, but that's true of lots of people who aren't fellow travellers with the Pinochets and Galtieris and Thatchers of this world.
But spending his last decade flogging Subway and Viagra and Volkswagen and all kinds of other sh*t felt a bit demeaned given his demi-god status. He began to be seen more as an advertising hoarding than a footballing great. I'm not sure that's fair, but it certainly happened.
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