US 2024 Election

[voice]

Says the fool obsessing about Biden being an imaginary crime lord as a way to distract from his cult leaders actual criminality.

[marechal]

Nov 2, 2023 1:28:30 GMT rick4949 said:

doesn't matter, idiot. running or not he will have permanent residence in lefty minds.

Personally I'd be quite happy for your crime lord to fade into obscurity, never to be heard from again. Then the lefties, the independents, and the conservatives (of which there are plenty) who aren't slow-witted suckers can forget about him.

But we know that will never happen, not when he still has people to fleece and attention to be had to feed his frail ego.

And when you criticize others (only lefties of course) for doing a fraction of his litany of high crimes and malfeasance you'll still be ridiculed for being a puppet on a string. So get used to it.

[flatandy]

Yeah, if he finally goes quietly to prison for a couple of decades it will help. But we'll still remember all the people who voted for him and his crimes and incoherence and stupidity and corruption and racism and rapes and blackmail and treason and when they criticise other people for far lesser offenses we'll know that it's bullshit criticism and they don't really care.

[rick4949]

i see the godfather is terrified of losing the muslim vote so he has been busy trying to mollify them at the expense of israel.

[unclejunior]

Nov 2, 2023 17:11:09 GMT flatandy said:

Yeah, if he finally goes quietly to prison for a couple of decades it will help. But we'll still remember all the people who voted for him and his crimes and incoherence and stupidity and corruption and racism and rapes and blackmail and treason and when they criticise other people for far lesser offenses we'll know that it's bullshit criticism and they don't really care.

Can’t we just move on from Bill Clinton already !!

[rick4949]

Nov 2, 2023 17:11:09 GMT flatandy said:

Yeah, if he finally goes quietly to prison for a couple of decades it will help. But we'll still remember all the people who voted for him and his crimes and incoherence and stupidity and corruption and racism and rapes and blackmail and treason and when they criticise other people for far lesser offenses we'll know that it's bullshit criticism and they don't really care.

there is so much transference there i don't know where to begin.

[voice]

That's cos you're in a cult

[marechal]

Ah, what a shame. Another member of the crime syndicate thrown in the slammer.


A former Donald Trump political appointee at the State Department who tried to storm the Capitol and assaulted law enforcement officers on Jan. 6, 2021, was sentenced to 70 months in prison on Friday.

Federico Klein was arrested in March 2021 and convicted of eight felonies as well as misdemeanor offenses by U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden, also a Trump appointee, in July 2023 following a bench trial.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-appointee-assaulted-capitol-officers-jan-6-sentenced-nearly-6-ye-rcna123188

[voice]

Good

Though there was a time treason meant being shot at dawn.

[voice]

Off year elections, Dems win Kentuky governor's race, and most interestingly, looking like Ohio, a right leaning state, will decisively vote to put abortion rights into the state constitution. I think that's 7 abortion votes won by those favouring women being equal citizens with equal rights over their body.

[flatandy]

In off-year elections Democrats historically do badly. Because, historically, Democrats used to be poorer, therefore less widely educated, and more disenfranchised, minority voters. Who, for whatever reason, needed the enthusiasm of a Presidential campaign to come out. Famously college educated and older voters are more reliable to show up, and historically they were Republicans.

Also, in non-Presidential years, normally the presidential incumbent's party gets a kicking, because that's what voters like doing.

Also, when the president's approval ratings are in the shitter - like Biden's are, generally 15% more say they disapprove of him over those who approve - the incumbent's party gets a massive smacking.

So it's very very against type that the Democrats have had a very good year. Kentucky is a huge win, with Beshear somehow increasing his majority. Abortion rights and marijuana legalisation in Ohio are a big deal - the former for actual humans, the latter more as a symbol of the fact that the public may not think they like Democrats but generally they support progressive policies, and it's a reminder of the shrinking body of support for angry culture war nonsense that Republicans rely on. Democrats winning back control of both houses of the Virginia legislature is interesting in the context, too - also interesting because there was a growing clamour in the media for Glenn Youngkin as the next Ron DeSantis "man who can be Trumpy but win moderates" (they love that narrative even though it's shown over and over again to be a total loser). The democrats won a supreme court justice race in Pennsylvania, like they did in Wisconsin earlier this year. They appear to have increased their majority in the New Jersey state house.

The only "bad" result of the night's big elections was them losing in Mississippi, but that feels like the Tories winning Uxbridge, a totally expected win, but it's hard to present it as representative of anything given what else went on.

A great night. I wouldn't spend too much time using it to predict next year's elections (although Democrat strategists will be happier than Republicans tonight), but all these wins are great protections should 2024 go badly.

[voice]

Glenn Youngkin was widely expected to win both house and senate and would be, by morning, announcing his run as the moderate, sane alternative to the Orange looser, I'm guessing that's not gonna happen now.

Dems ran on much of the success of Biden, but didn't mention him by name. Just took the credit. This is obviously a winning strategy, but nit for Biden, who, let's face it, is too old, and really should step aside. He might win next year, it's still incredibly close, byt given he's running against a convicted sex pest and fraudster and someone who may be convicted of a lit mire, he should be burning him. A younger dynamic candidate would.

[flatandy]

I’m not sure who that better younger alternative would be who wouldn’t piss off loads of people by either being too left wing or too right wing or too liberal coastal elite or too middle Smerica, and who doesn’t have incumbency advantage, Biden might not win next year, but it’s not because there’s an obvious better candidate. And, as Trump is only 3 years younger, it’s not because voters actually would be voting on age.

[mids]

Biden's going to lose, isn't he?

[flatandy]

I'd say he has about a 60% chance of winning, but not more than that.

[marechal]

Republicans do horrible at the polls for being utter cunts was nice news to wake up to today.

[voice]

Another one bites the dust

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-67400670

Looking like the GOP is trying to coalesce around a Trump alternative. Ain't gonna help em, the cult will never accept anyone else.

[flatandy]

Will anyone even notice Tim Scott dropping out?

3 months ago, I thought he might be a fairly compelling candidate. The very fact that he's black means that the US media would have presented him as a "centrist alternative" to Trump, although (like everyone in the Republican race) he's only a moderate centrist in the way that Trotsky and Beria were "centrist alternatives" to Stalin. He could have had pretty broad appeal and would probably have won a general election.

But as soon as he entered the ring rumours abounded about his sexuality because he didn't have a wife. The poor guy had to pay a woman to pretend to be his girlfriend at the end of the last debate, but that wasn't enough. Those rumours and his non-whiteness were enough to quickly kill any chance he had.

[Repat Van]

Will Fuentes association with Trump harm him or do Trumpers just not care?

www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/nick-fuentes-jews-executed-1234925748/amp/

“ Nick Fuentes, the hate leader who dined at Mar-a-Lago last year with Donald Trump and Kanye West, is calling for a genocide of “perfidious Jews” and other non-Christians. “When we take power,” he said a Dec. 8 livestream, “they need to be given the death penalty, straight up.”

Fuentes leads an “America First” movement of young white nationalists who call themselves “Groypers.” One of the country’s most insidious racists, Fuentes denies the Holocaust and has increasingly advocated for a violent form of Christian nationalism, as epitomized by his Friday remarks. “These people who are suppressing the name Christ, and suppressing Christianity,” he said, “they must be absolutely annihilated.”

Despite his overt hate speech, Fuentes has made inroads into Republican politics. Fuentes hosts an annual America First Political Action Conference — which he holds as far-right counter-programming to the more conventional CPAC. Fuentes’ event has attracted congressional speakers including Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) and Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.).

During the rapper Kanye West’s antisemitic blitz of late 2022, Fuentes was a paid political adviser to West, and accompanied his November visit with Trump at the former president’s Palm Beach estate. Fuentes was also on camera when West infamously professed his love for Hitler during a Dec. 2022 interview with Alex Jones.“

[voice]

With Trump now openly saying he will be a dictator if he gets back into power this bloke is the least of those he'll surround himself with in order to make true on his promises