US 2024 Election

[voice]

Time to start the whole thing again.

Looking most likely a Biden Trump re-match, despite a majority of US voters apparently not wanting either, and fewer still wanting a re-run of 2020. Biden is hovering about 40% with Trump closer to 30% nationally. And both are old as fcuk, only a few years between em, so most also are saying they want someone one younger.

Obviously Biden wants to run against Trump, as he beat him easily last time and is confident he can do the same again. While Trump is such a sore looser he has to run again for ego sake after saying he never looses.

Running mates, will Biden stick with Harris, who has been very underwhelming or make a change? Probably has to stick with her imo

Will Trump go with another gray mainstream conservative again, or do a McCain and pick a real crazy to try and boost the base?

If it is Biden Trump and, as expected, Biden wins again, how will the Trump crazies react, expect violence on an even bigger scale than last time.

Trumps only real hope is the GOP policy of trying to make sure only their voters can vote pays off better than the last 3 elections he's lost, 2 mid terms and one presidential.

Oh and looking like the Dems are favored to take back the house and lose the Senate.

[mids]

Trump's awful. Really, really bad. He's better than Biden though. Vote Trump!

[perrykneeham]

And both are better than Starmer.

[mids]

Abbott for president!

[perrykneeham]

The least thick and racist option for America.

[flatandy]

Apr 24, 2023 20:00:53 GMT perrykneeham said:

And both are better than Starmer.

Really depressingly, I think both Starmer and Sunak are better than either option in the US.

[voice]

Too black, but more importantly, too feminine, for the average US voter.

[mids]

Starmer? He wishes.

[perrykneeham]

Apr 24, 2023 20:39:35 GMT voice said:

Too black, but more importantly, too feminine, for the average US voter.

Justin Trudeau?

[voice]

You do know Canada is not in the US right?

[perrykneeham]

For now.

[voice]

Biden just announced he'll run again.

[perrykneeham]

Now we're all sleepy.

[flatandy]

The thing about Biden is that nobody particularly likes him or is excited by him, but nobody really hates him (except some maniacs on the right who hate everyone who isn't actively lynching black people). The fact that the strongest things people feel about Biden are that he's old or he's boring is probably an asset.

There's no single Democrat potential candidate who is more compelling for a wide range of people. Buttigieg is compelling for nerdy technocrats like me, but everyone else finds him dry and annoying. Warren is compelling for people further left, but lots of people find her to be a shrill commie (they're wrong, but that's what they see). Newsom is compelling to people who want a US Trudeau or Macron, which is a particular kind of dreary centrist. Nobody has a compelling case - like, say, Obama did - that they represent the full spectrum in the Democratic party and will bring everyone to the general election.

Meanwhile, very few Democrats or (true) independents will vote against Biden because of his age. Particularly not when the opponents will either be Trump (75% likely) or DeSantis (20% likely). If the opponent actually turned out to be Haley or Scott (or one of the blue state governors like Baker, Phil Scott, Sununu, Hagan) it might be a different matter, but I think it's unlikely to be any of them.

[mids]

I, for one, won't be voting for Biden.

[flatandy]

Because you're a hobo without an address to which they can send a ballot paper?

[mids]

It's because he doesn't think I'm black.

[flatandy]

I think hobos can be black, but perhaps that wasn't allowed when Joe was young.

[mids]

They'd have been press-ganged into the Confederate army.

[rick49]

remember that famous phrase of president kennedy's when he said 'i am a donut' in w. germany in 1963?

ich bin ein berliner means i am a donut.