I might be odd but I could be a genius - Aspergers

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From: Seahorse (Original Message) Sent: 06/05/2005 16:23
Seahorse


Dear , Everyone.

I feel a bit embarrassed typing this. However I need advice and opinions. My doctor sent me to see a Psychiatrist and language specialist. They think I could have a very elusive curse/gift named: ''Aspergers Syndrome.'' Its a neurobiological disorder in the brain. It causes eccentricity , social impairment skills and has a slight dash of autism about it. That’s its curse

Its gift is it can and most often dose spark of an element of genius. Like some people with sever autism can juggle numbers to an ultra colossal degree. I may have the same but with words and intellectual concepts.

It may explain why I joined this group at about 13 years of age ! When I meat my Psychiatrist she had some job dealing with me. she stated '' This is something I was discussing with my coleuses , I can keep up with you , your one step ahead with me.'' They had difficulty examining me because I would object and challenge the ''objective reality,'' of there diagnosis.

People with this disorder can have a strong sense of justice to an obsessive degree. That may explain my strong political views at my age.

I cant find good sources on this disorder.

Any advice or opinions would be great.

P.S I was amazed to learn Albert Einstein had this syndrome and my dyslexia !

Maybe its not so bad after all , always knew I was a geniuses lol j/k.

Seahorse.

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From: cobbrers Sent: 06/05/2005 16:32
You worried about it?


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:37
A bit. I cant say I have it but untill I am properlay tested.


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From: red__anchor Sent: 06/05/2005 16:38
"When I meat my Psychiatrist she had some job dealing with me."

Is she fit?


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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 16:41
It causes eccentricity
you may well have it then lol
Oh hang on, i might have it too


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From: mazie Sent: 06/05/2005 16:43
When I meat my Psychiatrist she had some job dealing with me.

I've just fallen off my chair


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From: cobbrers Sent: 06/05/2005 16:45
I wouldn't worry too much. The fact that you're on here and making as much sense as anyone else means that you're a fully paid-up nutter of the most normal kind. And in addition, you might have some super powers!


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:45
lol. It has just clicked lol.


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From: red__anchor Sent: 06/05/2005 16:46
You're a young man, Seahorse, full or raging hormones and lust. Nice one

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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 06/05/2005 16:47
You don't have dyslexia, you just can't spell good!


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:48
well , gives a new meaning to probing the mind.


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From: cobbrers Sent: 06/05/2005 16:48
That's not a good image


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:50
he he


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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 06/05/2005 16:50
OK here's a test:

What's 185127 x 22 equal?

Don't cheat and use a calculator


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From: red__anchor Sent: 06/05/2005 16:50
How old is this sexpot psychiatrist bird, Seahorse?

From: ßeachcomber Sent: 06/05/2005 16:50
Maybe not quite what Seahorse is after but I read this novel a few months ago.

The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time
by Mark Haddon
PaperBack: May 2004
Publication information Media Reviews & Book jacket
Read an excerpt
Reader reviews
Author biography (Haddon)
Reading guide



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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 06/05/2005 16:52
Good book


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:52
lol shes 44

lol I like my older woman lol.
sorry part maths is not my strong point.

Try me on theology lol.



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From: Party_naked4 Sent: 06/05/2005 16:54
WOW! For someone with a suspected form of autism, you ain't half conversing well.

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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:56
lol , yup thats why I object I may have it , but still the proffestional wisdom of psychobabelers degreed I should take the test.


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 16:56
www.udel.edu/bkirby/asperger/


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 17:14
My psychiatrist gave me two leaflets from that UK society.

I can identify a bit with some of the symptoms but I have no problem speaking, infact I can speak well and hold the attention of others.

However I can seem frustrated when it comes to flirting of playing football or ' hanging with the lads.''

That you for your help , I will be E-Mailing.



I am tempted to assume Plato , Socraties and Aristotle had these disorders. Probably why they were rejected from there socity and executed in Greece.





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From: MoggyOnSpeed Sent: 06/05/2005 17:22
Seahorse - do you exhibit any kind of compulsive (and I mean very compulsive) interest in simple things? Wheels? Other things that go around? Fire? Water? I also have to say that your conversing so readily on this thread implies to me that you may not have Asperger's at all, in which case someone is possibly at risk of misdiagnosing you.

My nephew has been diagnosed with Aspergers for the last twelve years and he's turned out just great; he programs device drivers etc. for UNIX/ Linux systems as an IT subcontractor (when he's not at college, that is).

Good luck, fella.


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 17:34
I have been dignosed with OCD ( Obssesive-Cumpulsive-Disorder.)

I do spend time read books like

'' A-level Psychology.''

'' Neurology Of The Brian.''

I somtines get addicted and cant rip myself away from theologicol thought or disscustion.

But I do not no if that is odd.

I also get disstreased if I dont stimulate my brian much.

I did not ' suggest'' to myself aspergers syndrome by readign books becosue I did not know about it. My doctors just sprung it on me.

Thanxs Seahorse




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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 06/05/2005 17:36
Top Friday arvo thread.

From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 17:51
So I may not have it Or mayI ?


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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 18:01
Whatever happens you are you with all your complexities and gifts.
somewhere there's no doubt a girl who's reading the same stuff as you are and if you're lucky you'll meet her.
Wouldn't the world be boring if we weren't all different?
I was into astronomy and reading anything I could find on philosophy at your age.
What does it matter? Be happy.

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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 18:07
I was dignosed with a suspected OCD. Yet they cant make up there mind if that is it.

My doctor noticed noticed that I pick up in words in conversations more than others. Pluse my ability to speak and think of concepts can be (not always) more advanced then pepole of my age.

So much so infact that I am the highest in my English class in the highest class. Both my art teacher and English teacher agree I am very talented with words. Once when I got my pre-lim exsam papers back from English , the marker wrote on it '' Over the top. '' and I was questoned if I cheated.

To witch I replyed '' No its just I put the test to the test. ''




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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 18:33
For example:

Not a very good example but.

If person a was to say '' I think I may need to go to the shops.''

I would read that in a more holistic way. Such as ''I think. '' I would interpret that as the person being confused deep inside.

And '' I may need to go.'' I would then interpret that as the person being insecure that they find they NEED to do something.

'' To the shops. '' They may have money problems.

So I would then conclude that the person.

Deep inside maybe subconsciously the person may be finding it hard coping with getting by in life.

I also pick up very quickly in unusual words people use in sentences like '' I can just feel the love emanating from me.''

I would pick up on the word emanating.....

Its actually hard to explain I just feel unconfortbeal following principles and cant stop thinking questions like why ?

It gets out of proportion and as you have spotted illogical sometimes.

I use my big blue Seahorse to convey subconsciously the notion of the sea by using the colure blue and making it big to stick it into peoples minds.

I just love thinking I guess to an addictive degree.




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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 18:34
I would do good in the manipulative world of advertising lol


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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 18:39
It could be an imbalance of hormones which usually corrests itself in a couple of years.

You can get growing pains in your head



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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 18:45
* corrects


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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/05/2005 19:25
From: <NOBR>MoggyOnSpeed</NOBR> Sent: 06/05/2005 17:22
Seahorse - do you exhibit any kind of compulsive (and I mean very compulsive) interest in simple things? Wheels? Other things that go around? Fire? Water? I also have to say that your conversing so readily on this thread implies to me that you may not have Asperger's at all, in which case someone is possibly at risk of misdiagnosing you.

Wazwo

I also have to say that your conversing so readily on this thread implies to me that you may not have Asperger's at all, in which case someone is possibly at risk of misdiagnosing you.

Wazwo

I agree I think they are misdiagnosing My Son I had OCD from 12 to My late 30s and I know what OCD is as I had to live with it and feel that is Seahorses problem not Aspergers.

However they are just testing Him for it but looking at what they say is the symptoms of Aspergers I cant help feeling half The Population should have it Lol..

I wonder who decides on the traits they say indicates Aspergers?

Seems more like a theory than an illness to me.

Phsyciatrists like to put folk in managable little boxes it makes their lives not the lives of their patients easier and who is to say their 'thinking' is correct?

I had years of these quacks in My Chilhood and they had Me down as having everthing from Tennis Elbow to Housemaids Knees Lol..

I am following their treatment of Seahorse closely and wont put up with their assumptions I only deal in fact.

As a Nursery Nurse I correctly idetified a Child with Semi-Autism the Nursey Phsycologist had Him down as a Child with behavioural problems as she was the kind that felt all working class Kids had behavioural problems and proceded on that premise.

Eventually I started to question My Phsycologists as a Child and played them at their own mind games.

They did not like that one little bit.



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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/05/2005 19:27
From: <NOBR>TweedyIcas</NOBR> Sent: 06/05/2005 18:01
Whatever happens you are you with all your complexities and gifts.
somewhere there's no doubt a girl who's reading the same stuff as you are and if you're lucky you'll meet her.
Wouldn't the world be boring if we weren't all different?
I was into astronomy and reading anything I could find on philosophy at your age.
What does it matter? Be happy.

Wazwo

Spot on!

It different folks to make this world go round.



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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 19:38

I must question the premisis that Asperger Syndrome is based on myslef.

Who decides the social and cultral dogma of the day ?

Doctors ? Politicians ?

Who set the criteria for being classified as socally normal ?

Have they conducted an in-depth anaylsises into the subjective nature of Mr.Aspergers hypothsis ?

Wooops thats my Aspwergers agian







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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/05/2005 19:54

From: <NOBR>MoggyOnSpeed</NOBR>

I also have to say that your conversing so readily on this thread implies to me that you may not have Asperger's at all, in which case someone is possibly at risk of misdiagnosing you.

Wazwo

OCD Autism and Aspergers have many common Characteristics attention to detail being one of the more obvious and deep thinking also many Phycologists put Children who are simply 'sensatives' into manageable boxes also.

OCD and the others I mention are problems but Children who think differently are not odd or out of touch with the rest of their peers as some Phycologists imply.

Often it is they who are right in their thinking and their Phsycologists and peers that are wrong as they are only judging others and what others think on the accumalated theories of their life experience.

But that does not give them the right to say a sensitive Child is wrong and they are right.

If handled properly The sensitive Child can be a great benefit to the shools they attend and communities they live in.

Boredom was the worst thing for me at School I was terrible at Maths but loved Art and English problem was I would finish tasks on these subjects very fast and then sit there bored.

The other Kids thought I was trying to be over clever or shame them in some way but I was simply finished My work.

Things got better when I left school and I flourished under The Adult Education System one that was more suited to Me as I could concentrate on the areas I loved and progress faster in these areas as The Lecturers where more aware of My gifts and weakenesses and I would not be as bored and My fellow students where not prone to exclude me.

One thing Seahorses Phycologist said I took to task was this:

She said folk with Aspergers lack social interaction skills and cant make friends easily with their peers and tend to exclude themselves from social interaction.

I pointed out that although I was as Seahorse is 'Sociable' at School it was the other Kids who excluded Me for being different not the other way round and asked Her what that indicated about the mentality of 'yer actual normal sociable Kid' that they would exclude others because they are different.

I then asked who's thinking then was it that was wrong.

I coped as a Kid with all this as I understood that The phycologists could asked me all the questions about My relationships with My Mother/Father and at The time Brothers/Peers but none of these relationships would flourish until I got out of their hands.

You See not once did they ask me about the most important relationship of all the one that affects all these others they where asking me about:

Wazwo's relationship With wazwo

I realised at an early age that if this relationship was not right then all the others would fall.

I went on to find That The Kid they spoke about was ok and right within Himself and that was all that mattered.

Not al The Nonsense they fired at Me tested me on But My relationship with Me.

I found I was an OK person and that I respected Myself and understood Myself more than their years of Diagnoses could and that is all we all need to know.



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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/05/2005 19:56
From: <NOBR>۞±Líkk³éstévíé³ívés±۞</NOBR>

my response to that was that hey hes 6 years old ffs people dont use old fashioned sayings like that anymore so hes bound to

Wazwo

Spot on again.

Also some things do have to be taken litterally.


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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/05/2005 19:58
From: <NOBR>۞±Líkk³éstévíé³ívés±۞</NOBR>

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it can be reversed i found just by taking simple if maybe at the time unnerving steps.
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Wazwo

Indeed it can but as you say it takes time in my case many years to overcome and the steps I took where unerving to say the least.

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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 20:11
When I was a pre-schooler my mum told me to keep away from a deep hole in our neighbour's garden as it went right down to Aus.

I believed it lol[well wouldn't you?]



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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 20:49
To be fair my ma probably knew what I was like and so it stopped me being nosey and exploring lol


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From: Seahorse Sent: 06/05/2005 20:50
One of the supposed disturbing suggestons of ' Symtoms. ' I was told was pepole that pepole with Aspergers Syndrome have a keen sense of justice.




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From: icas2 Sent: 06/05/2005 20:52
Judges must have it then


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From: Lendiantel Sent: 06/05/2005 20:56
What Is Asperger Syndrome?
By Barbara L. Kirby
Founder of the OASIS Web site (www.aspergersyndrome.org)
Co-author of THE OASIS GUIDE TO ASPERGER SYNDROME (Crown, 2001)
Asperger Syndrome or (Asperger's Disorder) is a neurobiological disorder named for a Viennese physician, Hans Asperger, who in 1944 published a paper which described a pattern of behaviors in several young boys who had normal intelligence and language development, but who also exhibited autistic-like behaviors and marked deficiencies in social and communication skills. In spite of the publication of his paper in the 1940's, it wasn't until 1994 that Asperger Syndrome was added to the DSM IV and only in the past few years has AS been recognized by professionals and parents.

Individuals with AS can exhibit a variety of characteristics and the disorder can range from mild to severe. Persons with AS show marked deficiencies in social skills, have difficulties with transitions or changes and prefer sameness. They often have obsessive routines and may be preoccupied with a particular subject of interest. They have a great deal of difficulty reading nonverbal cues (body language) and very often the individual with AS has difficulty determining proper body space. Often overly sensitive to sounds, tastes, smells, and sights, the person with AS may prefer soft clothing, certain foods, and be bothered by sounds or lights no one else seems to hear or see. It's important to remember that the person with AS perceives the world very differently. Therefore, many behaviors that seem odd or unusual are due to those neurological differences and not the result of intentional rudeness or bad behavior, and most certainly not the result of "improper parenting".

By definition, those with AS have a normal IQ and many individuals (although not all), exhibit exceptional skill or talent in a specific area. Because of their high degree of functionality and their naiveté, those with AS are often viewed as eccentric or odd and can easily become victims of teasing and bullying. While language development seems, on the surface, normal, individuals with AS often have deficits in pragmatics and prosody. Vocabularies may be extraordinarily rich and some children sound like "little professors." However, persons with AS can be extremely literal and have difficulty using language in a social context.

At this time there is a great deal of debate as to exactly where AS fits. It is presently described as an autism spectrum disorder and Uta Frith, in her book AUTISM AND ASPERGER'S SYNDROME, described AS individuals as "having a dash of Autism". Some professionals feel that AS is the same as High Functioning Autism, while others feel that it is better described as a Nonverbal Learning Disability. AS shares many of the characteristics of PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder; Not otherwise specified), HFA, and NLD and because it was virtually unknown until a few years ago, many individuals either received an incorrect diagnosis or remained undiagnosed. For example, it is not at all uncommon for a child who was initially diagnosed with ADD or ADHD be re-diagnosed with AS. In addition, some individuals who were originally diagnosed with HFA or PDD-NOS are now being given the AS diagnosis and many individuals have a dual diagnosis of Asperger Syndrome and High Functioning Autism.





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From: la la Sent: 07/05/2005 07:03
My bargain basement suggestion is that someone with Asberger's would not demonstrate a fixation on theology - abstract concepts don't really interest them.

As for the problems with flirting, that is part and parcel of being a teenager.


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From: hammerĥead Sent: 07/05/2005 11:00
Seahorse,

My younger brother was diagnosed with Asperger's last year. He's a few years older than you and found it very difficult to accept that he was 'ill'. Not surprising really as he was sailing through a Masters degree in Chemistry at the time and is certainly a damn sight more intelligent than, say, me for example.

The symptoms can be subtle and quite frankly, someone suffering from the syndrome might just be seen as mildly eccentric. And hey, that's our right as a British citizen!

I wouldn't presume to advise but please take professional opinion at face value, my brother has been helped even though he never believed he needed it, and the people who diagnosed and treated him were honest and excellent.

My bargain basement suggestion is that someone with Asberger's would not demonstrate a fixation on theology - abstract concepts don't really interest them.

Oh dear, could you be more wrong la la? Resolving issues to simple 'right' and 'wrong' is a common trait of those suffering from Asperger's, and other forms of autism too. Theology, or at least theism is something often drawn to.


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From: WetKingCanute Sent: 07/05/2005 11:51
Dear Seahorse,
I've only just picked up this thread this morning 7th. May.
My son ( 25years old in August ) has Asperger Syndrome.
The post that Lendiantel sent "What is Asperger Syndrome" is well worth reading and hammerhead's post is spot on.
My poor son was very badly bullied all through his school days but now has a good degree from Portsmouth Uni. He still has trouble making friends with people his own age and has never had a girl friend. He is a lovely person but he drives the people who love him mad.


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From: DocCruel Sent: 07/05/2005 12:17
Not so much "odd" as "idiot", SH.


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From: Psalms112 Sent: 07/05/2005 12:25
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From: hammerĥead Sent: 07/05/2005 13:08
Heh, if I had one guess as to who posting on this board, suffered from Asperger's, it would be Doc (there's a couple more but never mind).

Intelligence combined with a polarised right/wrong is a classic symptom. Doc believes in a mythical evil 'left' within which he compartmentalizes attitudes he detests. To Doc, there is no 'right' because he's intelligent enough to realise any attempt to categorize some sort of of political good in a globalised society is impossible. It's too complex.

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From: KotatsuMonster Sent: 07/05/2005 13:16
Sounds like mumbo jumbo to me.

I had never heard of Asperger Syndrome until today, but reading the "What is Asperger Syndrome" article I felt like that could be a number of people I know...including myself. Seriously, most of these folks are far more interesting (at least to me) than the people who conform to the so-called norm. Actually, I've also come across people who I thought were very socially adept but it turns out that deep inside that they have their own funny psycho characteristics.

Anyway, rather than viewing it as something negative, I try and view the whole situation as the human race being made up of people of a vast range of characteristics; everyone is different, and therefore everyone can contribute something different. While we are calling it a syndrome, and frankly I think "personality" would be a better choice of words, I suggest you bask in your syndrome and enjoy the gifts it blesses you with.

Besides, people who are socially inept in the so-called norm environments can also flourish in other social environments where the normal folks would be put to shame. By perfecting knowlege of the subjects that interest you now, you may open a door to a world where you feel ultimately more socially adept in the future.


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From: icas2 Sent: 07/05/2005 14:11
exactly KM.

from the feminine view point I would imagine that females generally like a sensitive man and the boys who crowd together and talk footy all the time may be hiding some complexities in their own personality.

I always liked this poem in my youth

Max Ehrmann


Desiderata

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.


Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.


Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs;
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.


Be yourself.
Especially, do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love;
for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment
it is as perennial as the grass.


Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline,
be gentle with yourself.


You are a child of the universe,
no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.


Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be,
and whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.


With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.


Max Ehrmann, Desiderata, Copyright 1952.






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From: Shimmer Sent: 07/05/2005 14:20
Seahorse,
I remember reading about this condition a couple of years ago...one of the physical characteristics is extremely long limbs/fingers (in relation to the rest of body)

Fairly easy to figure out: normally your arm span exactly equals your height. In Aspergers Syndrome the arm span is significantly longer than height. Fingers can be spidery long & slim (gotta-picka-pocket-or-two)

If the diagnosis is correct consider yourself in good company, there are many famous very clever people throughout history who are believed to have had Aspergers. Einstein & Isaac Newton

So go on Seahorse stop wasting your time on here, go and invent something!


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From: Shimmer Sent: 07/05/2005 14:24
I watched a documentary about Osama B. Laden a while back and there was some speculation about him also having aspergers

I think they were probably fascinated with O.B.L.'s long limbs and expressively long fingers.

Seahorse come out of that bloody cave NOW


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From: Shimmer Sent: 07/05/2005 14:27
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From: noblelady Sent: 07/05/2005 15:04
I'm ADD with a touch os Aspergers

it's just the way I'm wired.

Too bad we don't get a handbook on how to minimize the downsides
and focus on the gifts!


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From: yord Sent: 07/05/2005 16:36
There comes a time when everyone will find themselves on the highest roof with a high powered rifle and the fools will say.. I wonder what was it was that finaly snaped in his mind , however, in your case the question should realy be I wonder what took him so fecking long


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From: 19Units Sent: 07/05/2005 16:49
Seahorse,
You've been coming on these boards now for 4 odd years.
You must be 16 now, are you doing your GCSE's.?
Are you going to stay on at school or get a job?


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From: Joe King Sent: 07/05/2005 17:44
We are all "Odd" in some way or another. Nobody is unique. Have fun SH


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From: la la Sent: 08/05/2005 10:29
Oh dear, could you be more wrong la la? Resolving issues to simple 'right' and 'wrong' is a common trait of those suffering from Asperger's, and other forms of autism too. Theology, or at least theism is something often drawn to.

(Flinches) Ow! As I said, it was nothing more than an non-expert thought. We live and learn. Thank you for the insight.


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From: icas2 Sent: 09/05/2005 08:13
Oh dear, could you be more wrong la la? Resolving issues to simple 'right' and 'wrong' is a common trait of those suffering from Asperger's, and other forms of autism too. Theology, or at least theism is something often drawn to.

(Flinches) Ow! As I said, it was nothing more than an non-expert thought. We live and learn. Thank you for the insight.

So anyone with strong views or who is religious has Asperger's syndrome?
I'll make a note of that

[sushimo]

From: Wazwo Sent: 09/05/2005 23:54
From: <NOBR>19Units</NOBR> Sent: 07/05/2005 16:49
Seahorse,
You've been coming on these boards now for 4 odd years.
You must be 16 now, are you doing your GCSE's.?
Are you going to stay on at school or get a job?

Wazwo

Seahorse is staying on at School and is doing His exams at present.



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From: 19Units Sent: 10/05/2005 00:05
well done
Seahorse.


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 14:59
a ha


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From: two_OF_seven Sent: 09/08/2005 15:03
indeed!


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From: Ian. Sent: 09/08/2005 15:06
Isn't Aspergers Syndrome what Eugene in BB is sposed to have?


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From: two_OF_seven Sent: 09/08/2005 15:08
possible, ive not been watching.


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 15:09
I see we've found yet another of Wazwo's former careers.

As a Nursery Nurse I correctly idetified a Child with Semi-Autism the Nursey Phsycologist had Him down as a Child with behavioural problems as she was the kind that felt all working class Kids had behavioural problems and proceded on that premise

That man must require his own chartered FedEx plane to send his CV off anywhere.


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From: two_OF_seven Sent: 09/08/2005 15:11
so really he could diagnose seaboy on his own !


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From: two_OF_seven Sent: 09/08/2005 15:12
since im not a genius i better get back to my books to study, i do expect lots of amusing responses later when i take a break.
oh this is a great distraction.


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 15:14
Aspergers Syndrome is something that roughly 1 in 3 men have

Is this true, or is it just your observation (that tallies almost exactly with mine)?


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From: Watchman_v2 Sent: 09/08/2005 15:14
I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this before, but there's a strong possibility that Seahorse and Wazwo could be the same individual. Has this thought occurred to anyone else?


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From: gαіα Sent: 09/08/2005 15:14
Its gift is it can and most often dose spark of an element of genius. Like some people with sever autism can juggle numbers to an ultra colossal degree. I may have the same but with words and intellectual concepts.


the sheer arrogance of this makes me weep. especially as i have yet to see any evidence of seawaz's amazing dexterity with words and intellectual concepts.


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From: Ian. Sent: 09/08/2005 15:18
You have to admit though Gaia, that each one of his posts is a gem and certainly makes you stop and think...

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From: Seahorse Sent: 5/6/2005 6:33 PM
For example:

Not a very good example but.

If person a was to say '' I think I may need to go to the shops.''

I would read that in a more holistic way. Such as ''I think. '' I would interpret that as the person being confused deep inside.

And '' I may need to go.'' I would then interpret that as the person being insecure that they find they NEED to do something.

'' To the shops. '' They may have money problems.

So I would then conclude that the person.

Deep inside maybe subconsciously the person may be finding it hard coping with getting by in life.

I also pick up very quickly in unusual words people use in sentences like '' I can just feel the love emanating from me.''

I would pick up on the word emanating.....

Its actually hard to explain I just feel unconfortbeal following principles and cant stop thinking questions like why ?

It gets out of proportion and as you have spotted illogical sometimes.

I use my big blue Seahorse to convey subconsciously the notion of the sea by using the colure blue and making it big to stick it into peoples minds.

I just love thinking I guess to an addictive degree.






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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 15:21
'' To the shops. '' They may have money problems.

You can't fault logic like this.

[sushimo]

From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 09/08/2005 15:25
I'm starting to think we are dealing with one very odd individual.

if you look back through this thread Wazwo talks about his own childhood and his dealing with psychologists etc and how he had to explain to his classmates that we wasn't taking the piss by being brilliant at certain things. also how he played the doctors at their own game.

all very very similar to Seawaz.


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From: Ian. Sent: 09/08/2005 15:26
I know VHW, its amazing how he can draw so much information from such a simple statement, yet still be so accurate, I mean how many people can honestly say they've never said "I think I may need to go to the shops" when really they've meant "Life is really getting me down at the minute, money worries and insecuritiy are realy making it hard to cope, I'm so confused inside"

If that didn't romp home with the POTW award that week then there is no justice in the World!


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 15:29
I mean how many people can honestly say they've never said "I think I may need to go to the shops" when really they've meant "Life is really getting me down at the minute, money worries and insecuritiy are realy making it hard to cope, I'm so confused inside"

Moreover, isn't it so true that when you're free of money-worries, you shun shops in favour of growing one's own produce and bartering for other goods and services with the locals?


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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 09/08/2005 15:30
Wazwo's occupations:

photojournalist
mercenary
long-term unemployed
nursery nurse
trade union activist

any others?


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 15:31
You forgot 'full time carer' which he was until last year or so, now he is 'self-employed'.


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From: Vania Sent: 09/08/2005 15:32
Hasn't he worked for his local council and also been to every country and also has a family member from every race/ethnic group/religion known to man.


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From: Ian. Sent: 09/08/2005 15:32
Seahorses Illnesses/Disorders

Aspergers Syndrome
Autism
Obsessive Compulsive Disorder
Dyslexia
Depression
Anxiety

Any more?


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From: ÇHÉYÉNNÉ Sent: 09/08/2005 15:33
I vote Seahorse to be a contestant in the next Big Bro series.



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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 15:33
And Ian forgot the liver disease that Seahorse has (can't remember name).

Beginning to worry about the things I remember.


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From: omnipresent Sent: 09/08/2005 15:37
is post 90 real?

that is pure, pure gold!


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From: omnipresent Sent: 09/08/2005 15:38
If person a was to say '' I think I may need to go to the shops.''

I would then conclude that the person. Deep inside maybe subconsciously the person may be finding it hard coping with getting by in life.




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From: Unioncitybluez Sent: 09/08/2005 15:40
seahorse has a liver problem too and something wrong with his eyesight


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From: Vania Sent: 09/08/2005 15:41
Wazwo's lurking - he just wrote a cracker of a post on the other thread but he's now deleted it.

[sushimo]

From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 09/08/2005 16:38
Basically, people with Asperger syndrome have problems in three main areas. These areas can be divided up into

Social Communication - knowing what to say to other people and what they are saying to you
Social Understanding - knowing what to do when you are with other people
Imagination - pretend play, make believe, and fantasy
Hmm...



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From: Lendiantel Sent: 09/08/2005 17:29
I might be odd but I could be a genius

Nah, it wouldn't be odd at all....






























...it would be down right unbelievable!



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From: Sea_Urchin6 Sent: 09/08/2005 17:57
Moreover, isn't it so true that when you're free of money-worries, you shun shops in favour of growing one's own produce and bartering for other goods and services with the locals?

I grow my own beans and tomatoes and stuff. Does that mean I can tell the bank manager to...er....go on his way? lol I have no experience of bartering....yet! Any suggestions?


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From: Wazwo Sent: 29/03/2008 01:33
From: Vania Sent: 09/08/2005 14:32
Hasn't he worked for his local council and also been to every country and also has a family member from every race/ethnic group/religion known to man.

WAZWO

and also been to every country

Where have I ever said I have been to every country Vania?

also has a family member from every race/ethnic group/religion known to man.

I Have a Jamaican Wife and come from a Catholic /Protestant Scottish/French background French on My Mothers side.



Been abroad a bit but cant recall saying I have been to every country Vania.

See you still like to distort other posters contributions.

Some things dont change.



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From: Wazwo Sent: 29/03/2008 01:49
From: Vania Sent: 09/08/2005 14:41
Wazwo's lurking - he just wrote a cracker of a post on the other thread but he's now deleted it.

WAZWO

?



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From: Rubbbitt Sent: 29/03/2008 07:36
2005!!??


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From: Psalms112 Sent: 29/03/2008 10:41
From his new publication - Digging deeper.


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From: Wazwo Sent: 29/03/2008 22:48
From: <NOBR>VikingHumpingWitch</NOBR> Sent: 09/08/2005 14:33
And Ian forgot the liver disease that Seahorse has (can't remember name).

Beginning to worry about the things I remember.

WAZWO

That would be Autosomnal Recessive Polysystic Kidney Disease.

Polycystic kidney disease (PKD) is a genetic disorder characterized by the growth of numerous cysts in the kidneys. The kidneys are two organs, each about the size of a fist, located in the upper part of a person’s abdomen, toward the back. The kidneys filter wastes and extra fluid from the blood to form urine. They also regulate amounts of certain vital substances in the body. When cysts form in the kidneys, they are filled with fluid. PKD cysts can profoundly enlarge the kidneys while replacing much of the normal structure, resulting in reduced kidney function and leading to kidney failure.

When PKD causes kidneys to fail—which usually happens after many years—the patient requires dialysis or kidney transplantation. About one-half of people with the most common type of PKD progress to kidney failure, also called end-stage renal disease (ESRD).

PKD can also cause cysts in the liver and problems in other organs, such as blood vessels in the brain and heart. The number of cysts as well as the complications they cause help doctors distinguish PKD from the usually harmless “simple” cysts that often form in the kidneys in later years of life.

In the United States, about 600,0001 people have PKD, and cystic disease is the fourth leading cause of kidney failure. Two major inherited forms of PKD exist:

Autosomal dominant PKD is the most common inherited form. Symptoms usually develop between the ages of 30 and 40, but they can begin earlier, even in childhood. About 90 percent of all PKD cases are autosomal dominant PKD.

Autosomal recessive PKD is a rare inherited form. Symptoms of autosomal recessive PKD begin in the earliest months of life, even in the womb.



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From: §Norfolk_Dumpling Sent: 30/03/2008 11:54
I am amazed nobody has mentioned that Bill Gates has Asperger's syndrome.

Asperger's people are often highly intelligent. They tend to find making eye contact difficult. Social skills have to be learned, as does knowing when a person is joking or not.

Being articulate is easy enough when writing, speaking aloud is harder. Asperger's people hate changes to their routine.

There are varying degrees of the syndrome. Some severely affected people can behave very oddly (by so called normal standards)

I used to look after a boy with Asperger's. He had no sense of danger and was very gullible. If he was told there was a tiger outside he would believe it.

He is now at a specialist college and doing well. I saw him recently and he was looking well and his social skills were much better.

I know another young man with Aspergers and he is doing well in his career. His social skills are poor, but his attention to detail means he is good at his work. He refuses promotion because he hates change.



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From: Watchman Sent: 31/03/2008 00:49
I am amazed nobody has mentioned that Bill Gates has Asperger's syndrome.


he wud neva!


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From: VikingHumpingWitch Sent: 31/03/2008 08:52
redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/necromancer.htm


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 31/03/2008 09:56
Is the person who resurrected this thread posting from Basra?


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From: Ricklinc Sent: 31/03/2008 10:49
Aw what? Another flipping disease/condition/syndrome as an excuse for bad behaviour. What happened to people being mardy bastards and getting punched for it?


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From: robman© Sent: 01/04/2008 10:22
I just came across this, the guy has Aspergers Syndrome..

www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10501425

[sushimo]

From: Dr_Go¨¢ts Sent: 01/04/2008 10:35

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From: <NOBR>Chromodynamix</NOBR> Sent: 31/03/2008 09:56
Is the person who resurrected this thread posting from Basra?




Nah, he's never recovered from that episode and now posts elsewhere as Brilliant Brian or Billy Whizz


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From: Wazwo Sent: 05/09/2008 21:36
From: <NOBR>Ricklinc</NOBR> Sent: 31/03/2008 10:49
Aw what? Another flipping disease/condition/syndrome as an excuse for bad behaviour. What happened to people being mardy bastards and getting punched for it?

WAZWO

I see so what you dont understand you rationalise in your own way apparently we should punch those with diseases or afflictions.

Get a life.



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From: Ruby9643 Sent: 05/09/2008 21:44
Ah hah, the last taboo I think?


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From: f§Öral Sent: 05/09/2008 21:55
Someone takes the time to trawl through 6 months of old threads to say to someone else who posted way back then "get a life " ?
LMAO


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From: Ruby9643 Sent: 05/09/2008 21:58
Well oops and all that! I am still laughing now! OMG!


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From: Ruby9643 Sent: 05/09/2008 22:21
yeh Seahorse is about apergers as the man in the moon!


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From: Poseidon Sent: 05/09/2008 22:28
Blimey .... I thought Wazwo had fecked off with Seahorse for good!


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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/09/2008 21:37
From: <NOBR>f§Öral</NOBR> Sent: 05/09/2008 21:55
Someone takes the time to trawl through 6 months of old threads to say to someone else who posted way back then "get a life " ?
LMAO

WAZWO

That right feral ignorance if left tends to grow.



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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/09/2008 21:42
From: Poseidon Sent: 05/09/2008 22:28
Blimey .... I thought Wazwo had fecked off with Seahorse for good!

WAZWO

Nah Poseidon Seahorse has left but I have just been taking a long break to take in a bit of travel.

Moved from the city to a nice rural area of Scotland and I have been missin you all.

Well most of you.



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From: cathy 1 Sent: 06/09/2008 21:44
From: Wazwo Sent: 06/09/2008 21:40
From: <NOBR>Ruby9643</NOBR> Sent: 05/09/2008 21:55
.... you are probably social workers or teachers anyway! That would figure!

WAZWO

Dont know if your post is adressed to me but if so.

1. I wouldn,t piss on a social worker if they where on fire.

2.Are theremany real teachers around today?




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From: cathy 1 Sent: 06/09/2008 21:45
Kindly watch your language Ruby.


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From: Scooby Do. Sent: 06/09/2008 21:59
From: <NOBR>Unioncitybluez</NOBR> Sent: 09/08/2005 15:25
I'm starting to think we are dealing with one very odd individual.




Maybe a split personality, somewhere in the depths I remember Wazo claiming to be seahorse's father. Anyone remember that?


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From: Wazwo Sent: 06/09/2008 22:18
From: Scooby Do. Sent: 06/09/2008 21:59
From: <NOBR>Unioncitybluez</NOBR> Sent: 09/08/2005 15:25
I'm starting to think we are dealing with one very odd individual.




Maybe a split personality, somewhere in the depths I remember Wazo claiming to be seahorse's father. Anyone remember that?

WAZWO
A split personality because I indicate another poster is my son?

Come on UCB you can do better than that I remember you as a good debater in any case I think on one long thread I proved my case if I remember.
I can always repeat the lesson though.
Lol

Lets stick to the facts of the threads and discuss them.
If Ya dare.

From: C_N Sent: 08/09/2008 21:53
They're baaaaccccckkkkkkk!

The meds didn't work then Wazhorse?


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From: Chromodynamix Sent: 09/09/2008 00:05
Charming Northerner is back too. A coincidence?