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Post by grizzley on Jan 26, 2009 16:30:29 GMT
Actually, Nyer, the Jews you are referring to are the loud mouthed minority backed by some big dollars. The Jews you refer to are the bottom of the barrel. Thugs. They disgrace the real Jews that I personally know. But don't feel alone, I have met one or two of "your kind". Patriotic righteous Jews that love their homeland are the minority to your Judenrat? You're on effing crack! ;D Grizzley, what happened to you? What event in your life turned you into an arab ass kissing dhimmi? You do know should you ever be stupid or unlucky enough to wander into their territory, those Hamas terrorists would cut your white Christian throat as fast as look at you, you do realize that don't you? Ha! Won't they be surprised when we kill them too, what f*cking idiots.  Death to the infidels! After Jews, we shall kill the Christians! What utter morons they are for supporting us! Nyer.....the systematic killing of Palestinian families is intolerable. The theft of Palestinian land to build "settlements" is disgusting. I do not support crap like this. Israel needs to be taken away from its current "management" the "settlements" leveled and the Palestinians reimbursed for their pain. At the same time, those "settlement" thugs that shoot and terrorize the Palestinians should be arrested and turned over to the Arabs for true justice. Israel needs what the U.S. apparently just received, a leader with a conscience and a moral code. |
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Post by tarrant on Jan 26, 2009 16:32:14 GMT
Quite. Problem for Jews who disagree is they tend to get labeled Self Hating Jews, or the latest, Judenrat and have death threats posted. www.masada2000.org/list-A.html |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 26, 2009 16:47:34 GMT
Nyer.....the systematic killing of Palestinian families is intolerable. The theft of Palestinian land to build "settlements" is disgusting. I do not support crap like this. Israel needs to be taken away from its current "management" the "settlements" leveled and the Palestinians reimbursed for their pain..
Yeah, about that, they were dancing in the streets on 9-11 and handing out sweets in celebration, so, basically, f**k them. They let us know without a shadow of a doubt that they are our enemies. You are shedding tears for people that wish death on us, and celebrate it when we get mass murdered. So you see, my heart doesn't bleed for them when Israel does what it has to do.
To thank you for your trouble, Hamas would happily cut your white Christian throat grizzley, you really need to stop deluding yourself about the realities of those people, they are savages and you are denying it to yourself because the reality doesn't fit with you're sense of "justice", you're siding with the wrong team buddy.
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Post by vania on Jan 26, 2009 17:25:37 GMT
How offensive is not only the thread header but the term 'judenrat'?
Being Jewish does not, and should not denote the way a person thinks. It's a religious belief. Thus Jews in the opening post are just as Jewish as the 'real' Jews New Yorker knows.
Terms such as 'Judenrat', 'self-hating jew', 'real jew' 'West Brit', 'Uncle Tom' should all have been left behind in the last century.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 26, 2009 17:31:06 GMT
How offensive is not only the thread header but the term 'judenrat'? Being Jewish does not, and should not denote the way a person thinks. It's a religious belief. Thus Jews in the opening post are just as Jewish as the 'real' Jews New Yorker knows. Terms such as 'Judenrat', 'self-hating jew', 'real jew' 'West Brit', 'Uncle Tom' should all have been left behind in the last century. Actually, it's the Judenrat themselves that are offensive, extremely offensive, and dangerous. |
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Post by vania on Jan 26, 2009 17:42:52 GMT
New Yorker, dictating how Jews should think (as you do) is nothing more than anti-semitism, which is why I'm surprised at you.
For the record there are ultra-Orthodox Jews who do not agree with the existence of Israel as a result of (not in-spite of) their religious beliefs. Whilst I do not agree with them, I do not feel it is right, and actually beyond nasty to claim someone is a 'fake or treacherous' Jew for not holding a specific viewpoint.
Their faith does not govern the way they look, their political ideas, their desire to control the world etc...
Really nasty thread.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 26, 2009 17:47:15 GMT
New Yorker, dictating how Jews should think (as you do) is nothing more than anti-semitism, which is why I'm surprised at you. For the record there are ultra-Orthodox Jews who do not agree with the existence of Israel as a result of (not in-spite of) their religious beliefs. Whilst I do not agree with them, I do not feel it is right, and actually beyond nasty to claim someone is a 'fake or treacherous' Jew for not holding a specific viewpoint. Their faith does not govern the way they look, their political ideas, their desire to control the world etc... Really nasty thread. Hey, calling it like it is, a Brit in WWII siding with the Nazi's was a traitor, would I be dictating how Brit's should think back in WWII if I said so? There's right and wrong, up and down, someone who is loyal, and someone who is a traitor. Those are the rules. |
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Post by grizzley on Jan 26, 2009 19:25:26 GMT
You just don't get it do you NYer. The United States has been supplying Israel with bombs, jets and other toys that are systematically killing Palestinians. They see the Star spangled banner on bomb fragments. Now you expect them to love Americans? Are you shooting it or smoking it? I have watched documentaries on television watching "settlers" basking in their swimming pools while water is in short supply to the Palestinians. I remember an article where Jewish "settlers" shot and killed a Palestinian farmer and wounded his son while they were walking to the market. What happen to these criminals? Nothing. If you want to get rid of Ham mas, stop helping them. Every time Israel unloads another dirty deed, Ham mas wins and you don't seem to be able to understand that, or you don't want to.
Vania seems perplexed by the term "real Jews"versus this low life scum. Nothing to be perplexed about. If this scum tried these tactics in the United States or Britain they would be arrested and in the U.S. probably put to death. Yet, you wish us to turn a blind eye on their persecution in Israel. It ain't gonna happen. Time for Israel to clean up their act and act responsibly. Time for the "real Jews" to write off these pieces of crap. Its time to stop trying to force people off their land. Its time for the U.S. to act responsibly. I sincerely hope Obama replaces all of this former nonsense.
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Post by Marshall on Jan 26, 2009 19:36:56 GMT
There is a world of difference between pilots engaged in war to individuals who walk into crowded places and blow themselves up.. The only differences are that the suicide bomber looks at his victims. And, of course, he doesn't return. That's the only difference? You are lost. |
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Post by bertrus2 on Jan 26, 2009 20:29:21 GMT
It's because Israel is a Jewish state, that they're getting all the sh*t from the Arabs. A Jewish state founded on terrorism for European immigrants who have occupied and appropriated a country which was 90% Arab. |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 26, 2009 20:55:17 GMT
The only differences are that the suicide bomber looks at his victims. And, of course, he doesn't return. That's the only difference? You are lost. Exactly, he's completely lost at the moment. Maybe he'll wise up. |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 26, 2009 21:02:35 GMT
You just don't get it do you NYer. The United States has been supplying Israel with bombs, jets and other toys that are systematically killing Palestinians. They see the Star spangled banner on bomb fragments. Now you expect them to love Americans? Are you shooting it or smoking it? I have watched documentaries on television watching "settlers" basking in their swimming pools while water is in short supply to the Palestinians. I remember an article where Jewish "settlers" shot and killed a Palestinian farmer and wounded his son while they were walking to the market. What happen to these criminals? Nothing. If you want to get rid of Ham mas, stop helping them. Every time Israel unloads another dirty deed, Ham mas wins and you don't seem to be able to understand that, or you don't want to. Vania seems perplexed by the term "real Jews"versus this low life scum. Nothing to be perplexed about. If this scum tried these tactics in the United States or Britain they would be arrested and in the U.S. probably put to death. Yet, you wish us to turn a blind eye on their persecution in Israel. It ain't gonna happen. Time for Israel to clean up their act and act responsibly. Time for the "real Jews" to write off these pieces of crap. Its time to stop trying to force people off their land. Its time for the U.S. to act responsibly. I sincerely hope Obama replaces all of this former nonsense. A load of nonsense. If the Israeli's intent was to systematically kill "palestinians", there would be no "palestinians". Israel in fact has bent over backwards to prevent civilian casualties, far more than any western nation has in modern warfare, but there's a double standard for Israel when she defends herself from mass murderers isn't there. The "palestinians" don't have water and electricity? Why not? There's been more than enough international money pumped into there for that very reason, why didn't they build any infrastructure with that money? Oh that's right, they were too busy using the money for the PLO and Hamas. If the "palestinians" don't have a water supply it is their own fault, mainly because they are as thick as f**k, and think they can conduct a war of conquest against Israel. |
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Post by norfolkdumpling on Jan 27, 2009 15:07:03 GMT
There is really only one solution and that is to relocate the Palestinians. They will never know peace while living next door to Isreal. Originally, Isreal was offered a place for their new country in Ethiopia which would have been better than taking over a large part of Palestine.
There was a lot of bloodshed at the time of the takeover. Someone I know told me her brother was shot by a Jew at this time. He was with the British Army.
I suggest moving the Palestinians because their country has been razed to the ground. The Isrealis should pay for creating the infrastructure of the new Palestine.
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 27, 2009 15:11:13 GMT
There's right and wrong, up and down, someone who is loyal, and someone who is a traitor. Those are the rules. I don't think it is acceptable to say that anyone can be opposed to Zionism except Jews. I think Jews should be entitled to the same rights as everyone else. |
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Post by jonren on Jan 27, 2009 15:33:52 GMT
If Jordan agreed to take the 'palestinians', I am almost certain that Israel and the US would underwrite the resettlement. Most are Jordanians anyway. Israel would then be a complete democratic state and a threat to none, unless attacked. Those who would still cry "death to Israel" would be easily identified and ostracised accordingly.
Incidentally, if Iran gets that 'nuke' as mentioned on another thread, it would be well advised not to fire it at Israel. If it did, Iran would cease to exist in a nano second. I for one, would not shed a tear.
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 27, 2009 15:36:54 GMT
vania's right....a nasty thread..
i am closer to captain yonatan (from the video) than to someone like new yorker actually but would never go near someone like grizzly and his patronising of what he considers a good jew....by gum - if he is indicative of brits, then he is not a real one, or is he
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 27, 2009 15:37:55 GMT
oh, i purposely said 'jew' and not israeli as captain and new yorker sometimes mess up  |
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 27, 2009 15:40:33 GMT
there is a beautiful new moon setting in a pale indigo sky....hamas bombed a jeep, killed a soldier and injured some more and the idf went right back in for a quicky....
and i will carry on my evening listening to the music of boubecar traore and keep on wondering
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Post by VikingHumpingWitch on Jan 27, 2009 15:41:32 GMT
Grizzly is Canadian I think.
Sometimes I think anti-semitism is so last century, and then you read threads like this and think no, it's just so ingrained people aren't even aware they're at it.
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 27, 2009 15:52:26 GMT
it's everywhere; i have been subject to acts of anti-semitism a number of times, not pleasant  and that's without me ever saying i was one....there are those that must have a nose for that sort of thing oh, if grizzly is canadian, just put whatever nationality/religion of choice |
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