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Post by jonren on Jan 27, 2009 8:18:26 GMT
"As I said in my inauguration speech, if countries like Iran are willing to unclench their fist, they will find an extended hand from us," he said.
Just make sure that hand is not bitten off. A peaceful overture to Iran should be cautiously welcomed but the US must never drop its guard. Some on this board were alive when Pearl Harbour was attacked and have long memories.
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Post by lala on Jan 27, 2009 8:53:39 GMT
Presumably, the idea is that by talking to the Iranians, we are lessening the likelihood of a new - nuclear - Pearl Harbour.
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 27, 2009 9:07:48 GMT
Hope talking works with ppl who hate you ( iran )
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Post by lala on Jan 27, 2009 9:15:15 GMT
What makes you think Iran hates us, SS?
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 27, 2009 9:29:43 GMT
They hate the USA
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 27, 2009 9:31:28 GMT
And homos, christians, dogs, bacon :-o
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Post by policecar on Jan 27, 2009 9:39:11 GMT
Some on this board were alive when Pearl Harbour was attacked and have long memories.
I remember the Battle of Austerlitz - never trust those fuckers in the Holy Roman Empire.
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Post by justmyopinion on Jan 27, 2009 9:40:24 GMT
The question is surely, which Muslim world? The moderate majority one or the minority Jihad/terrorist ridden one.
It's the latter that presents the most immediate threat
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Post by limeylily on Jan 27, 2009 9:55:44 GMT
Perhaps his idea is to grab their hands and pull them out of the dark ages into the 20th Century. I wish him luck!
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 27, 2009 10:41:32 GMT
i cant see that happening limey, they are too militant.
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Post by warofwords on Jan 27, 2009 10:49:18 GMT
i cant see that happening limey, they are too militant. Have you ever been to Iran ? I think you would be pleasantly surprised
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 27, 2009 11:10:40 GMT
the ones obama needs to talk to wont listen , they will only do what they want, the militants i mean,
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 27, 2009 11:11:03 GMT
and war no, i have not been to iran
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Post by lawrence on Jan 27, 2009 17:44:05 GMT
Obama is showing his naivete and endangering us all as he will be seen to be a spineless pussy. He will be tested because of this. Soon.
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Post by limeylily on Jan 27, 2009 20:52:23 GMT
i cant see that happening limey, they are too militant. Have you ever been to Iran ? I think you would be pleasantly surprised Not if you were arrested for wearing a "bad hijab" or were unfortunate enough to be homosexual. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6596933.stm"Thousands of Iranian women have been cautioned over their poor Islamic dress this week and several hundred arrested in the capital Tehran in the most fierce crackdown on what's known as "bad hijab" for more than a decade." Dream on, babe!
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Post by limeylily on Jan 27, 2009 20:55:38 GMT
Obama is showing his naivete and endangering us all as he will be seen to be a spineless pussy. He will be tested because of this. Soon. That's probably the reason behind the Hamas shenanigans this week! It'll be interesting to see how he responds to Hamas' violation of the latest cease fire.
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Post by Gort on Jan 27, 2009 21:00:01 GMT
If he dont act right he can forget it after his 4 years as the people are watching him and giving him his chance
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 1:51:12 GMT
Have you ever been to Iran ? I think you would be pleasantly surprised Not if you were arrested for wearing a "bad hijab" or were unfortunate enough to be homosexual. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6596933.stm"Thousands of Iranian women have been cautioned over their poor Islamic dress this week and several hundred arrested in the capital Tehran in the most fierce crackdown on what's known as "bad hijab" for more than a decade." Dream on, babe! Limey , sorry but I wasn't arrested ...guess they couldn't have been too 'militant' towards me hey ? I wore a very loose fitting sheer scarf is all and my everyday clothes I would wear here in Australia ............You really should visit , they sell many more designer labels than you would ever find cruising down London or Aussie streets . I have faith that Iran will return to it's former glory , after all the women there are highly educated , they hold positions of power heck they are even able to drive ! Iran is primarily made up of those younger than 30 years of age , talk to them , they are itching for change ..............
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Post by limeylily on Jan 28, 2009 9:26:57 GMT
Not if you were arrested for wearing a "bad hijab" or were unfortunate enough to be homosexual. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6596933.stm"Thousands of Iranian women have been cautioned over their poor Islamic dress this week and several hundred arrested in the capital Tehran in the most fierce crackdown on what's known as "bad hijab" for more than a decade." Dream on, babe! Limey , sorry but I wasn't arrested ...guess they couldn't have been too 'militant' towards me hey ? I wore a very loose fitting sheer scarf is all and my everyday clothes I would wear here in Australia ............You really should visit , they sell many more designer labels than you would ever find cruising down London or Aussie streets . I have faith that Iran will return to it's former glory , after all the women there are highly educated , they hold positions of power heck they are even able to drive ! Iran is primarily made up of those younger than 30 years of age , talk to them , they are itching for change .............. But why on earth should they want to change that perfect society you've just described? ;D
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 13:56:24 GMT
They don't want to change the things I have described ......
[glow=red,2,300]State monitoring Obama Arab reaction[/glow] Posted: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:55 PM by Domenico Montanaro Filed Under: State Dept.
[glow=red,2,300]From NBC's Libby Leist [/glow] Since President Obama's interview with Al Arabiya last night, State Department public diplomacy officials have been closely monitoring reaction in the Arab media -- TV, newspapers, radio and blogs -- to get a sense for how the interview is playing.
The State Department is busy preparing a report for the White House on what they've observed and, so far, the reaction has been a very positive one.
In reviewing Arab media commentary, officials say, two messages seem to have resonated: Obama's focus on listening and not dictating U.S. policy and his emphasis on the fact that he has lived in the Muslim world and has Muslim family members. "I think that his mention of his familiarity with the Muslim world and respect for Islam was taken very well," one official, who served under the Bush administration and now Obama, told NBC News. "That got a lot of positive commentary." He added, "There's long been a belief that the U.S. was opposed to Islam."
The official was careful to note, however, that despite the positive reaction to Obama's overture, there was also a "wait-and-see" attitude about the direction of U.S. policies in the region, specifically on the Arab-Israeli issue.
Also interesting, Al Arabiya's Arab satellite rival Al Jazeera has been low key about the interview, mostly out of competitive reasons. They've barely mentioned it, the official said.
In addition to a close review of news and blog sites, U.S. Embassies in the region have today been informally surveying the public for reaction, officials say.
A State Department official read to NBC News a few of the emails coming in from posts abroad.
The U.S. Embassy in Cairo reports: "We are getting overwhelmingly positive feedback from bloggers and contacts in country. Their main points are that they were highly impressed..." that he gave his first TV interview to an Arab satellite channel. In Saudi Arabia, a newspaper editor told the embassy, "The reader reaction that he's getting so far is astonishingly positive."
In the United Arab Emirates, the embassy said, "Anecdotal public reaction has been highly positive." In Bahrain, one newspaper normally critical of U.S. policies commented favorably on the appointment of George Mitchell as special envoy. Important to note: Obama's interview aired too late in the Middle East for many newspaper deadlines. So tomorrow's reaction will be closely monitored as well, especially in places like Iran and Syria, arch enemies of the U.S. under the Bush Administration.
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