limeylily
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Post by limeylily on Jan 27, 2009 21:03:52 GMT
would love nothing more than slit the throat of a white Christian liberal idiot Your throat, as a fascist Islamophobe, would have more appeal, I imagine. Oh I dunno Aldy/bert, the useful idiots are far more expendable - easy come, easy go, more propaganda value too as they could always try to pin the blame on Mossad! |
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Post by newyorker on Jan 27, 2009 21:05:10 GMT
Well, expect 1,000 Gazans killed in the next few days. That seems to be the ratio: 1::1,000.
Whatever it takes. You'd think the "palestinians" would have wised up by now. Chalk it up to Darwinism.
The arabs little terrorist war of conquest against the world will be crushed on all fronts. Even with the useful idiots trying everything in their power to help them win.
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Post by Amazed on Jan 27, 2009 21:06:33 GMT
Slow to learn, the Israelis, eh?  |
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Post by avieder on Jan 27, 2009 21:06:56 GMT
Bert #36: "...Nor should you ignore the fact that there was a reduction in the rocket fire until Israel broke the truce..."
Thank you Bert dear. I couldn't have put it better myself !!!
The emphasys on the word "reduction" (this is written in "Quick Reply" that does not enable editing, like bold or underline fonts)
Do you comprehand the meaning of what you wrote? Or, maybe some of my better English speaking mates here can explain it to you.
Just, BTW, that in itself is a stupid lie because not only was there no reduction of rocket shooting on the contrary there was an intensefication of both the number and range of those rockets.
You will need a good plastic surgon to cut off that gaint nose you grew.....
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Post by bertrus2 on Jan 27, 2009 21:30:34 GMT
not only was there no reduction of rocket shooting Logically, that is obvious drivel. If there was no reduction in firing, then there never was a truce and so a non-existent truce couldn't have been broken. In point of fact there was a reduction of rocket fire from Gaza between the 19 June 2008 and the end of the six month period, compared with the previous six months. There might be a reduction in the nonsense you talk if you felt any need to back it up with facts from a neutral source. Since a truce is a two-way thing you also have to come up with Israel's record during this period as well as far as its respect for the terms of the truce are concerned. |
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Post by avieder on Jan 27, 2009 22:23:21 GMT
not only was there no reduction of rocket shooting Logically, that is obvious drivel. If there was no reduction in firing, then there never was a truce and so a non-existent truce couldn't have been broken. In point of fact there was a reduction of rocket fire from Gaza between the 19 June 2008 and the end of the six month period, compared with the previous six months. There might be a reduction in the nonsense you talk if you felt any need to back it up with facts from a neutral source. Since a truce is a two-way thing you also have to come up with Israel's record during this period as well as far as its respect for the terms of the truce are concerned. I was actually talking about a certain point of time (end of "official" truth) and now you expand this term for the whole 8 years. So be it. Now, at least, I can further clear up the other nonsense that you and your mates spew on these boards. 1) The Hamas were shooting all sort of stuff from Gaza at Israeli citizens since the start of implication of "The Oslo accords" some 8 years ago - While there was a flourishing Jewish community in Gush Katif, while the IDF had posts and camps in Gaza and while Fatah was the ruling party. 2) Since Israel withdrew unilaterally, completely, from Gaza the Hamas took power. They both intensified the bombing of Israel and started to exterminate their Fatah rivals. 3) Israel retaliated mainly from the air but also by limited ground operations to try and stop those rockets. 4) During the unofficial "truth" The hamas imported large numbers of rockets, with improved capabilities, through the tunnels under Philadelphi. Sporadic rocket shooting continued all the time. Thus only Israel's hands were tied by the truth. 5) During operation Cast Lead the Hamas displayed their abilities to hit targets at larger ranges. Until the victory of Tzahal put a stop to it. 6) Since Israel stopped, unilaterally, the operation, the Hamas too "declared" that they stop. Of course they never meant it and continued to shoot - So, again, Israel retaliated and the vicious circle continues. 7) the only people who can stop this fight are the Hamas. I think their Masters in Tehran do not want them to stop for reasons I elaborated in my previous posts. The final line is that Israel acts only in retaliation and responce to attacks on its civilians. Te whole world is watching. We care. The Arabs don't care. They have people like yourself spreading lies and disinformation. |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 2:24:58 GMT
The usual suspects are quick to jump the gun once more . An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attackwww.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3662806,00.html I nor my government is responsible for whackos that roam my city , why should Hamas be held responsible for this attack ? Hamas agreed to the ceasfire , Hamas has kept it's word |
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Post by cobblers on Jan 28, 2009 4:51:06 GMT
Some people are too stupid.
Wonderful Hamas kept its word.
Fcuking stoopid
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Post by newyorker on Jan 28, 2009 5:10:10 GMT
Some people are too stupid. Wonderful Hamas kept its word. Fcuking stoopid I'll second that, the stupidity being displayed is breathtaking.  |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 5:31:48 GMT
So do tell who in Milwalkee was responsible for Jeffry Dahmer other than Jeffry Dahmer himself ?
What sort of collective punishment by government was metered out to the folk of Milwalkee because of Jeffry Dahmers actions ?
This should be interesting
Morons abound
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Post by avieder on Jan 28, 2009 8:11:05 GMT
The usual suspects are quick to jump the gun once more . An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attackwww.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3662806,00.html I nor my government is responsible for whackos that roam my city , why should Hamas be held responsible for this attack ? Hamas agreed to the ceasfire , Hamas has kept it's word The trouble with you "War of Words" is that you fail miserably to live up to the name/nick you picked for yourself. If you read all the WORDS in the link you so kindly supplied you will find these sentences: "....An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attack..."...Later in the afternoon the IAF targeted one of the perpetrators of the attack in the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis. Hussain Abu Shamia, a prominent operative belonging to the Worldwide Jihad, was confirmed injured in the strike. ..."....Senior officials said on Tuesday evening that they see Hamas as solely responsible for the attack, and have no intention of playing along with its scheme to evade responsibility...." If you have any respect for "words" do not desecrate them by misrepresentation and lying. |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 8:34:27 GMT
The usual suspects are quick to jump the gun once more . An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attackwww.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3662806,00.html I nor my government is responsible for whackos that roam my city , why should Hamas be held responsible for this attack ? Hamas agreed to the ceasfire , Hamas has kept it's word The trouble with you "War of Words" is that you fail miserably to live up to the name/nick you picked for yourself. If you read all the WORDS in the link you so kindly supplied you will find these sentences: "....An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attack..."...Later in the afternoon the IAF targeted one of the perpetrators of the attack in the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis. Hussain Abu Shamia, a prominent operative belonging to the Worldwide Jihad, was confirmed injured in the strike. ..."....Senior officials said on Tuesday evening that they see Hamas as solely responsible for the attack, and have no intention of playing along with its scheme to evade responsibility...." If you have any respect for "words" do not desecrate them by misrepresentation and lying. Of course Israel would say they blame Hamas because they want to continue bombing the sh*t out of Gaza till there is nothing left ! The problem with people like you avieder is that you fail to be able to think for yourself , always relying on others to speak for you . Parrots do nothing to stimulate intellectual discourse |
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Post by Gort on Jan 28, 2009 9:14:58 GMT
Im an atheist and the only religion that pisses me off is Islam. I cant believe in this day in age people still believe in supernatural invisible gods when there is not a fossil or single grain of evidence of gods.. All there is is the gibberings of opium fulled lunatics who wandered about spouting pish about some god spoke to them and said this is what we all should do. If some arsehole was to wander about today saying god spoke to him he would be in a strait jacket in minutes and banged up. The only religion threatening mankind and the right to have a bacon butty or a cheese and ham toastie is Islam and I for one will not be giving them up for no one.
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Post by avieder on Jan 28, 2009 9:18:40 GMT
The trouble with you "War of Words" is that you fail miserably to live up to the name/nick you picked for yourself. If you read all the WORDS in the link you so kindly supplied you will find these sentences: "....An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attack..."...Later in the afternoon the IAF targeted one of the perpetrators of the attack in the southern Gaza town of Khan Younis. Hussain Abu Shamia, a prominent operative belonging to the Worldwide Jihad, was confirmed injured in the strike. ..."....Senior officials said on Tuesday evening that they see Hamas as solely responsible for the attack, and have no intention of playing along with its scheme to evade responsibility...." If you have any respect for "words" do not desecrate them by misrepresentation and lying. Of course Israel would say they blame Hamas because they want to continue bombing the sh*t out of Gaza till there is nothing left ! The problem with people like you avieder is that you fail to be able to think for yourself , always relying on others to speak for you . Parrots do nothing to stimulate intellectual discourse #51: "Parrots do nothing to stimulate intellectual discourse " I second that. Thank you for the link Ms. WarOfWords. It DOES take a specially dumb parrot to quote only that part of the link that suits your agenda namely: " An Islamist group affiliated with Al-Qaeda calling itself the 'Jihad and Tawhid Brigades' claimed responsibility for the attack " while ignoring the implications thereof namely that they act on behalf of Hamas. As I showed. I am disappointed with you. Just, BTW, That is the way Arafat's Fatah operated. Namely: Arafat "talked peace" with Israeli dumb-heads while fractions of Fatah like Az-adin-El-Qassam or Force-17 continued to commit terror both on Israelis and on other Arab "Palestinians". That is how Hamas started, as an operating arm of Fatah. |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 10:30:37 GMT
Hamas and Fatah hate each other , so quit trying to link them as one , Hamas grew as a social movement , they started schools and provided healthcare that Fatah didn't .
As for the link , I quoted whom was responsible in the link ........isn't that the point of this thread ?........Israeli opinion is just that , doesn't make it fact
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Post by avieder on Jan 28, 2009 11:00:17 GMT
Hamas and Fatah hate each other , so quit trying to link them as one , Hamas grew as a social movement , they started schools and provided healthcare that Fatah didn't . As for the link , I quoted whom was responsible in the link ........isn't that the point of this thread ?........Israeli opinion is just that , doesn't make it fact I didn't really understand that - seems like a pile of WORDS.... Alright. You are not too acquainted with the facts - not your fault. I do not have the time now to find all the relevant links but the gist is that the Terror Octopus grows many arms. Through the years organizations, (that sprung out to enable Arafat his double standard facade of talking peace while maintaining terror), started acting directly with the "Masters" bypassing their "creator". In our case Hamas started with the blessing of Arafat in order to show the Israelis: "If you do not give me what I want, you will have to deal with Hamas (and the other fractions)". Maybe Israel, too, saw a benefit in countering Arafat with this quasi "religious" and harmless group. Later that group saw the uprising of the fundamentalist Islam in Iran as their chance to achieve supremacy within the "Palestinians", joined forces with the Hizbulla and became favorites in Tehran over Fatah. The rest is history. Now that Hamas has the responsibility "cap" - Elected Democratically...etc. - they use smaller groups in a similar way. Only this time, I hope that Israel has wizened up and, by that link is acting properly, justly and efficiently against that terror. |
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Post by warofwords on Jan 28, 2009 11:07:32 GMT
Well at least you managed to nail one part , you are correct Israel is responsible for the rise of Hamas . For your furthur pursual In those early days Hamas enjoyed a strangely cordial relationship with Israel which was then more concerned about its traditional foe, Fatah, and gave tacit support to Hamas on the grounds that “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”. Fatah dealt with Hamas as it did with all of its other rivals. Fatah security officers arrested and tortured Hamas leaders confident in the belief that Fatah’s monopoly on power could never be challenged. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1537001/Why-Fatah-and-Hamas-hate-each-other.html |
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Post by limeylily on Jan 28, 2009 11:24:59 GMT
Now that Hamas has the responsibility "cap" - Elected Democratically...etc. - they use smaller groups in a similar way. - Avi Eder
Just a reminder that Adolph Hitler too was "Elected Democratically".
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 28, 2009 11:38:55 GMT
the extent of israel's incursion and destruction in gaza has been very unsettling to many israelis, however the longer people who do not appreciate the wheeling and dealing of political power in the mid east (especially at the moment of and by jordan and egypt) and keep crying about poor hamas and how hamas was democratically elected - do nothing, nothing to help the palestinian people or the israeli people, or to stem the flow of potentially very harming islamic fundamentalism
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Post by bertrus2 on Jan 28, 2009 12:25:49 GMT
The final line is that Israel acts only in retaliation and responce to attacks on its civilians. avi eder This is drivel of the highest quality, considering the subject of the thread is about a revenge raid by the IDF for the death of a soldier. |
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