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Post by sweet soul on Jan 10, 2009 17:32:15 GMT
Thousands of extra soldiers are ready to enter Gaza to stop the terrorists firing rockets at Israel.
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 10, 2009 17:36:00 GMT
It is called stage 3 of the war to stop Hamas holding Palestine and Israel in a grip of terror.
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Post by nicebutdim on Jan 10, 2009 17:37:24 GMT
So much for the UN resolution then.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 10, 2009 20:46:49 GMT
The UN are the Useless Nations after all.
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Post by Libby on Jan 10, 2009 20:57:08 GMT
More soldiers put at risk and more lives lost - hardly a resolution!
I wonder what the answer is . . . .
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Post by slippylizard on Jan 10, 2009 23:01:12 GMT
I do feel for the Gaza strip but Israel has had rockets lobbed at it for years and Hamas is all about the extinction of Israel, nothing less. They in turn are sponsered by the nutters in Iran. Iran wants Israel wiped off the map so I can't really blame Israel however there is a horrific amount of pain on the people of Gaza. How on earth do we resolve this mess, where do we start? Maybe if Israel can defeat Hamas and keep the nutters at bay it may stand a chance of negotiating with semi reasonable people. We should also remember that all sides are masters of manipulating the western media and feeding other arab countries with hate. Israel is not to blame completely for this mess.
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Post by newyorker on Jan 11, 2009 0:07:48 GMT
I do feel for the Gaza strip but Israel has had rockets lobbed at it for years and Hamas is all about the extinction of Israel, nothing less. They in turn are sponsered by the nutters in Iran. Iran wants Israel wiped off the map so I can't really blame Israel however there is a horrific amount of pain on the people of Gaza. How on earth do we resolve this mess, where do we start? Maybe if Israel can defeat Hamas and keep the nutters at bay it may stand a chance of negotiating with semi reasonable people. We should also remember that all sides are masters of manipulating the western media and feeding other arab countries with hate. Israel is not to blame completely for this mess. Very rational assessment, bravo.  |
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Post by lala on Jan 11, 2009 9:38:06 GMT
It is called stage 3 of the war to stop Hamas holding Palestine and Israel in a grip of terror. Hamas's rockets aren't capable of terrorising Israel. They're a nuisance, virtually a symbol of defiance. In ten years of blasting them out of Gaza, they've managed to kill a score of settlers with them - which is a day's work for the IDF in its current operation. Cllaiming that Hamas are terrorising Israel with these petards is absurd. |
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Post by lala on Jan 11, 2009 9:51:34 GMT
I do feel for the Gaza strip but Israel has had rockets lobbed at it for years See above - the rockets are vitually symbolic. They are a nuisance to the settlers, a tragedy for a very few, but they are almost ineffective as a weapon of terror. Lets not exaggerate. Hamas has risen to power on the back on anti-Israeli sentiment. This sentiment will be increased because of the current operation. Hamas will profit in the long run. So they are benefiting from the current bloodletting. The Israeli governemnt is also getting to look tough and obscure the embarrassment of Lebanon. So both participants are gaining from this, the only losers are the Palestinians and the Israelis. ANd lets not even go near the "wiped off the map" nonsense. The Israeli government can be blamed plenty, for pursuing a violent and ineffective policy which will reduce the prospects for peace in the region. Since their actions are jeopardising the safety of the state of Israel, not securing it, and they must know this, they could even be accused of treason for their cynical actions. All friends of Israel should be condemning the actions of the Israeli government. They've continually rejected opportunities to do so, which is why Hamas has waxed while Fatah has waned. The Israeli government isn't willing to negotiate because they'll have to face up to the need to give up land to the Palestinians - the majority of the West Bank settlements will have to be dismantled - and that's poison to the Israeli government, whatever party is nominally heading it. If Israel was interested in resolving the problem, they would have pushed ahead in negotiations with Abbas and Fatah in the West Bank, given him some real concrete achievements that would have strengthened him, instead of neutering him. Of course they aren't. But they're best positioned to do something about it, if they have the will. The Palestinains are fragmented, ideologically and geographically. Israel is a unitary nation with a single government, and they (cliche alert) hold all the cards. They are deciding how the game develops. |
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 11, 2009 10:04:45 GMT
Yes lala, Hamas are terrorising the ppl of Israel by sending rockets smashing into their towns! To say they are not is absured and shows how completly blind u are to what is really going on as u choose to ignore the truth. If Hamas was bombing Scotland u would not have such stupid views. Open your eyes! Hamas are using innocent Palestines also to further their terrorism. Using kids as human shields, killing ppl they simply see as different to them. They live in the middle ages and have to be stopped now!
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 11, 2009 10:34:37 GMT
Hamas are never gonna stop , they would rather die. I feel sorry for Palestines. They themselfs have to fight and with the help of Israel and the west and a peace process . Hamas will fail as terrorists. But only when the arabs themselfs get rid of Hamas, and choose peace.
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 11, 2009 10:38:33 GMT
Peace is possible in the middle east. But only when Hamas are gone.
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Post by lala on Jan 11, 2009 11:27:21 GMT
Yes lala, Hamas are terrorising the ppl of Israel by sending rockets smashing into their towns! Most of the death and destruction seems to be being visitied on the Palestinians, wouldn't you agree?You forget Lockerbie. Arab terrorists had a go at us, indirectly, quite some time ago.open your eyes. |
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Post by lala on Jan 11, 2009 11:29:21 GMT
Hamas are never gonna stop , they would rather die. I feel sorry for Palestines. They themselfs have to fight and with the help of Israel and the west and a peace process . Hamas will fail as terrorists. But only when the arabs themselfs get rid of Hamas, and choose peace. Did you read what I posted? The reason for Hamas is Israel's refusal to negotiate with Fatah. They won't negotiate because it means giving up land and settlements. End of story. If the Israeli's are going to vote in intransigent terror-mongers, why should the Palestinians do any different? |
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Post by lala on Jan 11, 2009 11:30:11 GMT
Peace is possible in the middle east. But only when Hamas are gone. Peace is possible in the middle east when the Israeli government starts giving up settlements in the West Bank. |
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Post by watchman on Jan 11, 2009 11:46:50 GMT
Peace is possible in the middle east. But only when Hamas are gone. Peace is possible in the middle east when the Israeli government starts giving up settlements in the West Bank. I doubt it to be honest, lala. Even if the Israelis withdrew from Gaza today and and from all of the West Bank, I am sure the next stage would be to demand the dismantling of Israel and then for Jews to leave the Middle East altogether or die. I don't support Israel's latest interventions at all (which will mean a few people falling out with me, no doubt, but I always was my own person) but I also think it's a bit naive to think that simply handing back the occupied territories will bring a lasting peace. |
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 11, 2009 13:17:04 GMT
Lala, yes i read what u said and im suprised at your views . Israel are acting in self defence ok. As i said, if Hamas was bombing Scotland day in day out you would be calling for the terrorists removal.
You appear to be supporting terrorism by your strange stance on defending ones Country from islamic extremism too!
Watchman, i wouldnt fall out with ya. :-)
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Post by newyorker on Jan 11, 2009 16:20:49 GMT
It is called stage 3 of the war to stop Hamas holding Palestine and Israel in a grip of terror. Hamas's rockets aren't capable of terrorising Israel. They're a nuisance, virtually a symbol of defiance. In ten years of blasting them out of Gaza, they've managed to kill a score of settlers with them - which is a day's work for the IDF in its current operation. Cllaiming that Hamas are terrorising Israel with these petards is absurd. lala, here's a hypothetical for you. I have a 357 magnum revolver (that's not hypothetical, I actually do, cool, huh  ), how about this, I'll randomly shoot it at your house, any time of day or night, a shot here, a couple shots there, you won't know when, but every day a bullet, or two, or three, will be sailing in through a window, I probably won't hit anyone shooting randomly like that, not capable of terrorising you and your family right? How long are you going to put up with it? Because the random shooting won't stop until you do something about it. |
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Post by sweet soul on Jan 11, 2009 17:10:38 GMT
Maybe lala would surrender
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Post by newyorker on Jan 11, 2009 17:14:31 GMT
Maybe lala would surrender If he surrenders everybody in the house gets lined up and shot. That is what Israel is dealing with. |
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