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Post by peakman on Mar 21, 2009 17:53:42 GMT
I say that atheism is simply a state of ignorance.
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 0:30:05 GMT
And Muslims are full of wisdom?
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Post by peakman on Mar 23, 2009 10:13:36 GMT
Muslims, Jews, Christians. What's the difference?  |
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 11:11:29 GMT
There's a big difference of opinion in the Holy Land.
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 11:56:28 GMT
There's a big difference of opinion in the Holy Land. And how would you know? |
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 15:03:13 GMT
It's in the newspapers, including Israeli newspapers. Ha'aretz reports the role of rabid jihadist rabbis urging on the troops to mass murder and devastation in the invasion of Gaza.
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 19:11:40 GMT
It's in the newspapers, including Israeli newspapers. Ha'aretz reports the role of rabid jihadist rabbis urging on the troops to mass murder and devastation in the invasion of Gaza. Which serves as a definite proof of #1's "...atheism is simply a state of ignorance. " You ARE an atheist aren't you Berty?..... Only by bringing the above quote from Haaretz to answer my post, its more like 'stupidity' than 'ignorance'. What has that quote of alleged actions by Rabbis to do with the fact that atheism is simply a state of ignorance. ? Or with the fact that you know NOTHING about the Religious freedom in Israel. Don't try to answer that Bertrus2. Its high above you level of comprehension. |
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 20:31:50 GMT
you know NOTHING about the Religious freedom in Israel. There is a minority of fanatical religious Jews and they have disproportionate influence because they are aligned with the racist nationalism on which Israel is built. During the fighting in the Gaza Strip, the religious media - and on two occasions, the Israel Defense Forces weekly journal Bamahane - were full of praise for the army rabbinate. The substantial role of religious officers and soldiers in the front-line units of the IDF was, for the first time, supported also by the significant presence of rabbis there. The chief army rabbi, Brigadier General Avichai Rontzki, joined the troops in the field on a number of occasions, as did rabbis under his command.www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1058758.html |
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 20:58:05 GMT
you know NOTHING about the Religious freedom in Israel. There is a minority of fanatical religious Jews and they have disproportionate influence because they are aligned with the racist nationalism on which Israel is built. During the fighting in the Gaza Strip, the religious media - and on two occasions, the Israel Defense Forces weekly journal Bamahane - were full of praise for the army rabbinate. The substantial role of religious officers and soldiers in the front-line units of the IDF was, for the first time, supported also by the significant presence of rabbis there. The chief army rabbi, Brigadier General Avichai Rontzki, joined the troops in the field on a number of occasions, as did rabbis under his command.www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1058758.htmlThere is a minority of fanatical Lefty Jews and they have disproportionate influence because they are aligned with the Media and finances by Lefty Europeans. As to those Rabbis and the other quote from Haaretz, The IDF is now checking the validity of those reports and will make the findings public. So lets wait for that and not "jump the gun" on every sort of story that the Media are so eager to publish. Does the name Muhamad-a-Dura strike a bell? |
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 21:08:47 GMT
Muhammad Jamal Muhammad a-Durah
12 year-old resident of al-Bureij Refugee Camp, Deir al-Balah district, killed on 30.09.2000 in Netzarim Junction, Deir al-Balah district, by gunfire. Did not participate in hostilities when killed. Additional information: Killed during clashes. His father tried to protect him with his body.
Israeli Centre for Human Rights
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 21:12:58 GMT
The IDF is now checking the validity of those reports
How are they going to check out reports of the role of rabbis and religious soldiers when it is the army newspaper itself that is actually reporting and praising the actions of the religious in transforming the attack on Gaza into a Jewish jihad?
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 21:17:41 GMT
Muhammad Jamal Muhammad a-Durah12 year-old resident of al-Bureij Refugee Camp, Deir al-Balah district, killed on 30.09.2000 in Netzarim Junction, Deir al-Balah district, by gunfire. Did not participate in hostilities when killed. Additional information: Killed during clashes. His father tried to protect him with his body. Israeli Centre for Human Rights Oh, for goodness sake. Repeating the lies that the French TV has already apologized about publishing this lie. I know that you are aware of this fact since our MSN days.... So, either you are senile or a professional lier. |
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 21:20:32 GMT
Repeating the lies that the French TV has already apologized about publishing this lie. Are you disputing the facts as recorded by the Israeli Centre for Human Rights? |
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 21:23:46 GMT
Repeating the lies that the French TV has already apologized about publishing this lie. Are you disputing the facts as recorded by the Israeli Centre for Human Rights? Yes. I certainly am. Check the case of Carasenty Vs, French TV, as if you didn't know  |
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 21:26:12 GMT
Or, as the leading post says "atheism is simply a state of ignorance. " and Bertrus2 is a declared atheist
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 21:27:03 GMT
Precisely what are you disputing in the report of the death of a Durah as stated by the Israeli Centre for Human Rights? What alternative version are you proposing and on what evidence?
Unresolved libel cases in the French courts are quite marginal.
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 21:38:57 GMT
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Unresolved libel cases in the French courts are quite marginal
The French TV admitted that that film was a fake.
The only thing that is "unresolved" is the question of knowing by the Network that the film was a fake stage- up . If so the reporter is entitled to damages etc.
It was proved without a shadow of a doubt that it was a stage up. The body that was buried was of someone else who died before the film was taken.
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 21:45:44 GMT
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Post by bertrus2 on Mar 23, 2009 21:53:01 GMT
Try this link for size, dear lier. It's very convincing, if true. However, allegations by one of the parties to the libel suits does not amount to proof of the facts. |
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Post by avieder on Mar 23, 2009 21:56:48 GMT
Now, lets reurn to the subject of this interesting thread:
I say that atheism is simply a state of ignorance.
And I can add that an atheist is not one who does not believe in god but one who believes that he is his own god.
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