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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 12:25:09 GMT
"Sweden just don't seem like the kinda place to charge someone with rape without a pretty good idea it happened" No you see I disagree. I imagine Sweden to be one of those places where pretty much most forms of sexual encounter, not agreed to in advance, in writing, could be seen as rape... Although his allegedly penetrating a woman while she was asleep is rape under English law as the English judges have said. |
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 12:27:09 GMT
Precisely the point, this is all a RE-investigation and despite all your protests of "nothing sinister" there is something sinister. It's just normal that the US are reminding everyone they are not actually signed up for diplomatic immunity as international law and their prior observation of it is not precedent creating. It's not sinister that the women either did not know they were raped or did not think they were raped when they went to the police, It's not sinister that the US wants Assange in their hands & Wikileaks shut down, nothing sinister, move along. No you see, despite all your protests of "something" sinister, there's actually nothing sinister here. You see? |
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 19, 2012 12:30:51 GMT
"Sweden just don't seem like the kinda place to charge someone with rape without a pretty good idea it happened" No you see I disagree. I imagine Sweden to be one of those places where pretty much most forms of sexual encounter, not agreed to in advance, in writing, could be seen as rape... Although his allegedly penetrating a woman while she was asleep is rape under English law as the English judges have said. A most ridiculous law, when you've just have sex. And I don't think that is accurate in and of itself (or else most people are rapists and/or have been raped.) I think it's penetrating them when they're asleep when you have no good reason the feel they would have consented when awake. And if you then go on to 'clearly consent' I genuinely don't see how it could ever be seen as rape. You reckon that a woman who starts to give a guy head while he's asleep would face assault charges? Ha! |
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Post by auldhippy on Aug 19, 2012 12:31:10 GMT
More importantly the women didn't charge rape when they went to the police station, their intent was to make him have an AIDS test. Be strange if they were in the police station and not mention it. I wonder what made they decide, all of a sudden, actually they think it's rape... I can envisage they themselves considering acquiesence as consent and only after a lot of persuading be informed they were raped and yes technically rubbing a boner against someone is molestation. Concerned only that they had some unprotected sex sought all involved to take an HIV test, something allowable under Swedish law. I'm more curious as to why they're persuing it, what once they did not consider important enough to allege rape is now their all consuming concern even if it means bringing down Wikileaks, a cause that had brought them together in the first place. |
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Post by auldhippy on Aug 19, 2012 12:33:29 GMT
hes gonna be allowed to speak to the media from a balcony at the embassy I hope to christ he's read the helpful govt leaflet about not falling off your balcony. I'd hate to see this end in tragedy. Topical satire, very good. |
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Post by auldhippy on Aug 19, 2012 12:38:00 GMT
It once took me three months to get my partner to acquiese to a particular quirk of mine, now you can't get her out of a tree.
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 12:51:30 GMT
Good comment on CiF. It could apply to many conspiracy theories.
"The theory that the CIA are behind the sex allegations against Assange requires not only politicians in the UK and Sweden to be compliant with US policy but also Assange's own 2 Swedish followers to make and stick with the allegations plus the judiciaries at local and national and junior and senior level of both EU countries. The CIA would have to be 100% certain that they would 'win' the extradition to Sweden and then win the one from there to the USA - seems like an incredibly convulated way of going about it, and one fraught with coming undone because someone in the chain came unstuck or leaked the 'truth'."
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 19, 2012 12:53:46 GMT
I fancy Assnge's days of leaking the truth are done if he ever gets to Ecuador.
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 13:06:39 GMT
They could lasso him when he comes out onto the balcony.
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 13:07:21 GMT
By 'they' I mean Mossad, of course...
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Post by unclejunior on Aug 19, 2012 13:12:34 GMT
when exactly is the Rapey Aussie Gobshite speaking from the balconey???
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 19, 2012 13:28:46 GMT
when exactly is the Rapey Aussie Gobshite speaking from the balconey???
Just after the white smoke is seen coming from the chimney of the embassy I believe
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 13:33:43 GMT
He's just done it.
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Post by sweet soul on Aug 19, 2012 13:33:45 GMT
he just been on his balcony
came over as a control freak
telling obama what to do
he didnt do himself any favours
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Post by sweet soul on Aug 19, 2012 13:34:13 GMT
hes deluded
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 19, 2012 13:37:17 GMT
Did he apologise for the rapes?
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Post by mids on Aug 19, 2012 13:39:59 GMT
He thanked the president of Ecuador for standing up for rapists all over the world.
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Post by sweet soul on Aug 19, 2012 13:41:20 GMT
he was a control freak on his balcony!! wonder if he was one in bed too   he sure aint doing himself any favours! if he is innocent, he would surely wanna fight his case? i would be real angry and fighting mad if it was me and i was innocent of charges and i would get a good lawyer and fight like mad |
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Post by jimboky on Aug 19, 2012 13:55:40 GMT
Wonder,,,,
how long will it take Ecuador to tire of him staying there?
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 19, 2012 14:04:40 GMT
"Or will it lurch off the precipice, dragging us all into a dangerous and oppressive world in which journalists fall silent under the fear of prosecution and citens must whisper in the dark."
Err, like Ecuador then
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