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Post by reverend on Jan 16, 2009 20:45:59 GMT
if there were a god he would'nt have invented humans for a start!
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Post by fastkat on Jan 16, 2009 20:56:43 GMT
...or at least humans who would be ready programmed to do what he wants rather than having to tell them through holy texts and persecution of gay people...
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Post by tarrant on Jan 16, 2009 21:18:29 GMT
If they were ready programed, where would there be free will.
And the question remains, if we cannot tolerate religious advertising on bus', then why is this particular piece of religious advertining permitted?
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Post by voice on Jan 16, 2009 21:43:20 GMT
in what way ican you ever claim a non religious organisation is doing religious advertisment just cos what they say is counter to what you think. just cos you belive one thing over an other it dont mean that belief is in anyway religious, afer all most of us here have different political beliefs, but I'd never claim the Labour Party or the LibDems are religions, though the tories could be the anti-christ  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2009 22:15:17 GMT
Just to be different, I sympathise with the bus driver.
I would prefer neither pro- God or anti- God adverts and hoardings.
I agree with tarrant, I think that it has a quasi- religious context even though it's preaching atheism.
The main thing is it is preaching ,,,-atheism.
People don't always want that.
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Post by Libby on Jan 16, 2009 22:29:15 GMT
We all have to put up with things we don't agree with in life, perhaps work conditions we don't agree with, or things that happen that we don't agree with. People will say things that we don't agree with - i don't see the advert on the bus as any different! It isn't hurting anyone and is purely a statement. The bus driver should get a life and realise that others have different viewpoints and his isn't necessarily right!
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Post by voice on Jan 16, 2009 22:34:42 GMT
I wonder why the bus driver never objected to other adverts you see on buses for films with violence or sexuality or a whole list of things many might find objectionable.
but Libby is spot on, 'get a life you fat arsed bus driving idiot'
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Post by tarrant on Jan 16, 2009 22:38:00 GMT
in what way ican you ever claim a non religious organisation is doing religious advertisment just cos what they say is counter to what you think. How can you possibly call these adverts non-religious? They are promoting an alternative religion, humanism. |
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Post by Libby on Jan 16, 2009 22:39:16 GMT
Thanks voice. That story made me sick. I have nothing against religious people, but there are some that really do need to get a life. They are so blinkered and blinded by their own beliefs and views, they cannot comprehend that people actually think differently and that other people may actually be right! It's nothing short of hypocrisy voice, as i bet he ignored other far more offensive adverts.
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Post by feral on Jan 16, 2009 22:43:31 GMT
What a load of patronising and unneccessary bilge that ad is .
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Post by voice on Jan 16, 2009 22:46:38 GMT
humanism is only called a religion by the religious as they just cant grast the fact just cos you dont have an immaginarry friend and base your morals and ethical framwork on logic, reason and just being a decent human being cos its the right thing to be, not have to make up some sky diety to give you permission to be a decent person.
Being non religios is not a religion its a standpoint
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Post by Libby on Jan 16, 2009 22:52:16 GMT
 Ridiculous! |
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Post by Libby on Jan 16, 2009 22:53:50 GMT
"Being non religious is not a religion its a standpoint" Very true voice! |
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Post by fastkat on Jan 16, 2009 22:56:42 GMT
"Being non religious is not a religion its a standpoint"
I agree too.
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Post by Libby on Jan 16, 2009 22:59:12 GMT
It's harder to make a standpoint than to conform and follow a religion  |
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Post by voice on Jan 16, 2009 23:15:23 GMT
oh its a stupid advert, but no more stupid than all the church boards peddling myth and superstition about their immaginarry freind.
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Post by bertrus2 on Jan 16, 2009 23:16:41 GMT
I agree with tarrant, I think that it has a quasi- religious context even though it's preaching atheism. An anti-religious advert is religious in the same way that an anti-smoking advert is a smoking advert. That is, not at all. |
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Post by bertrus2 on Jan 16, 2009 23:37:28 GMT
If you've got a slogan for the next atheist bus campaign, send it to Richard Dawkins. richarddawkins.net/article,3521,New-Bus-Campaign,Richard-Dawkins |
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Post by voice on Jan 16, 2009 23:40:46 GMT
How about
God, who cares.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 17, 2009 10:31:05 GMT
Being non religios is not a religion its a standpoint No, these people proclaim a belief system based upon attacking other belief systems. They can claim to be non-religious all they want. Most terrorists, for example deny they are terrorists. That does not make it so. These people are proclaiming a belief which they accept is a belief in their wording. The British Huminist Association includes agnostics in its ranks, by defination, a belief system. Their mission statement is fine sounding and I doubt many intelegent people could find much to disagree with in it. www.humanism.org.uk/aboutThis advert goes beyond the mission statement. It seeks to recruit supporters. It seeks to isolate and ridicule opponents. It seeks to establish a system of belief, namely that life can be enjoyed if you reject a god. Further that life cannot be enjoyed if you don't. There is no evidence for this claim. It is simply a belief. |
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