**Brexit Jokes & Comments Thread**

[nobody]

Mar 1, 2018 15:01:50 GMT flatandy said:

The Austin Allegro and Morris Marina and Ford Cortina were introduced under Tory Govts. (Admittedly, the Maxi and Princess were introduced under Labour).

Built by a Nationalised company, it was bound to fail, just as the cooperative building the LDV’s


Workers sleeping on the night shift were protected by the union, led by “Red Robbo”

[Deleted]

The British car industry was crap. It was the rotten cherry on the cake of a failing British industry - why do you think successive British governments desperately wanted into the Common Market?

[nobody]

The British car companies built some iconic cars.

[Deleted]

I don't disagree with that. I'd get a Bentley Continental but the paysans around here would probably lynch me.

[flatandy]

Of course, Bentleys have been German cars for the last two decades.

[flatandy]

Mar 1, 2018 16:31:06 GMT nobody said:

The British car companies built some iconic ironic cars.

There. Fixed that for you.

[Deleted]

Mar 1, 2018 16:39:57 GMT flatandy said:

Of course, Bentleys have been German cars for the last two decades.

Bloody hell, a VW subsidiary.

[hammerhead]

Mar 1, 2018 12:15:28 GMT nobody said:

The UK had a very good car industry, it was largely due to the unions, and particularly “Red Robbo” who fcuked it up

Bollocks. By the late 60's BMH had a whole bunch of brands (Austin, Riley, Wolseley, MG, etc...) producing models which competed against each other. It was an utter shambles with little innovation as they all fought to protect their segment of the market.

Not saying the unions didn't make it worse, but the UK car industry was fcuked well before nationalisation. It was complacent and didn't take seriously the massive technological advances foreign manufacturers were making.

This stuff is pretty obvious to anyone interested in the history rather than the politics.

[nobody]

Mar 1, 2018 16:40:27 GMT flatandy said:

Mar 1, 2018 16:31:06 GMT nobody said:

The British car companies built some iconic ironic cars.

There. Fixed that for you.

If it’s not broke,,,,,,,,,,

[nobody]

Mar 1, 2018 16:52:07 GMT hammerhead said:

Mar 1, 2018 12:15:28 GMT nobody said:

The UK had a very good car industry, it was largely due to the unions, and particularly “Red Robbo” who fcuked it up

Bollocks. By the late 60's BMH had a whole bunch of brands (Austin, Riley, Wolseley, MG, etc...) producing models which competed against each other. It was an utter shambles with little innovation as they all fought to protect their segment of the market.

Not saying the unions didn't make it worse, but the UK car industry was fcuked well before nationalisation. It was complacent and didn't take seriously the massive technological advances foreign manufacturers were making.

This stuff is pretty obvious to anyone interested in the history rather than the politics.

Nah, the amalgamation into BL killed off the industry

[hammerhead]

Mar 1, 2018 16:55:07 GMT nobody said:

Nah, the amalgamation into BL killed off the industry

It went horribly wrong well before that.

[mids]

It started to go wrong not long after the war and it was a combination of poor management (Giles had a bloody good war you know! Mentioned in dispatches twice - of course he can run a ruddy car factory!) and Soviet-funded unions who'd do anything to run Britain into the ground. I'm not sure if we ever had a world class car industry? I think it was decent enough in the 50s and early 60s. Motorbikes now, we were once world beaters at those. Probably only rivaled by the Yanks and the Eyeties.

[hammerhead]

Mar 1, 2018 17:16:55 GMT mids said:

I'm not sure if we ever had a world class car industry?

We definitely did, in the first half of the 20th century at least.

America led the way in production engineering but in terms of technical precision, design and style we were up there with France, Italy and Germany.

A downside was the way vehicle tax was calculated in Britain. The larger the bore the higher the tax so we got engines with very small bores and long strokes, which made for low revving and poor performance because the stroke was so long (ie the pistons had to move a lot more than is ideal).

Italy went with taxation based on Cubic Centimetres which is why they had such gorgeous high-revving tiny units (wide bore, short-stroke - the piston only travels a tiny distance per rev so can go much higher).

[mids]

"we got engines with very small bores and long strokes"

fnarr fnarr...

[flatandy]

There was a period where a handful of men (Issoginis and Moulton and so on) were trying to save the British car industry from itself. But no matter how great the individuals, the massive tide of utter sh*t was eventually going to swamp them.

[bertruss2]

All the well-known 'British' motor brands, driven by ordinary Brits, are owned by foreign companies, mainly from Germany, Japan and India. These are assembly plants, with components coming in from other EU countries. They are located in the UK for three reasons. Cheap labour, engineering expertise and tariff-free access to hundreds of millions of customers in the EU.

If you've £200,000, and thereabouts, to spare you can put yourself on the waiting list for a high-end luxury car or get a second-hand model for less. Jacob Rees-Mogg goes for luxury vintage cars.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Mar 1, 2018 18:12:55 GMT bertruss2 said:

All the well-known 'British' motor brands, driven by ordinary Brits, are owned by foreign companies, mainly from Germany, Japan and India. These are assembly plants, with components coming in from other EU countries. They are located in the UK for three reasons. Cheap labour, engineering expertise and tariff-free access to hundreds of millions of customers in the EU.

If you've £200,000, and thereabouts, to spare you can put yourself on the waiting list for a high-end luxury car or get a second-hand model for less. Jacob Rees-Mogg goes for luxury vintage cars.

Even by your standards bertie boy, that is an odd post.

[bertruss2]

that is an odd post.

The British car industry consists of assembly plants run by foreign car companies, dependent on components coming in from across the Channel. Obviously, Brexit will be damaging. The final treaty which will come into place after December 31, 2020, may limit the damage. But it can't be better than the current situation.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Mar 1, 2018 18:29:53 GMT bertruss2 said:

that is an odd post.

The British car industry consists of assembly plants run by foreign car companies, dependent on components coming in from across the Channel. Obviously, Brexit will be damaging. The final treaty which will come into place after December 31, 2020, may limit the damage. But it can't be better than the current situation.

If you've £200,000, and thereabouts, to spare you can put yourself on the waiting list for a high-end luxury car or get a second-hand model for less.


Why are you telling us we can get a high end luxury car?
Is this something you feel we were unaware of?

Are you Chauncey Gardiner?

[Repat Van]

Mar 1, 2018 14:12:56 GMT bertruss2 said:

having concerns about some of the impacts of the EU open border approach does not mean you’re completely opposed to immigration, foreigners, foreign imports etc.

Your gap is showing. Paying over the odds to give sweeteners to the foreign-owned 'UK' car industry does not show "you're completely opposed" to foreigners. It shows you are idiotic to exchange the friction-free trade relationship inside the EU for a bureaucratic, expensive and inefficient situation outside it. Exchanging the efficient, profitable freedom to let market forces match workers with jobs for a red-tape, government-imposed quota system, enforced by legions of border guards and immigration police is proof of idiocy.

It's also a kick in the teeth to the proportionately far greater number of Brits who live, work and study in other EU countries than the other way round.

Yep, wishful thinking on my part.