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Post by flatandy on Aug 21, 2018 21:01:52 GMT
Along with Flynn, Gates, Papadopolous, Page, etc, in guilty plea deals.
And Pruitt and Price kicked out of government and probably out of public life for life for massive corruption; and Zinke and Ross clinging on by their fingernails despite their corruption...
You have to wonder when people might stop working with the administration because the risk is too great.
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Post by voice on Aug 21, 2018 21:17:57 GMT
So Trumps campaign chair is guilty, though given how Trumps become even more unhinged over the past few days about the investigation, you gotta think he expected it. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45265676
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Post by voice on Aug 21, 2018 21:20:33 GMT
noose is tightening, not that its gonna make any difference, the congress has abandoned any vestiges of following the constitution, its party before country all the way in the GOP, power at all cost.
Someone said something interesting the other day, 'if Trump looses in 2020, do you expect him to simply leave?'
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Post by voice on Aug 21, 2018 21:28:51 GMT
Cohhen flips and fingers Trump in the process www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45265546US President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen has pleaded guilty in a Manhattan court to violating campaign finance laws. He said he did so at the direction of "the candidate" and that he acted for the "purpose of influencing election". Mr Cohen's admission was related to hush money paid to Mr Trump's alleged mistresses. The 51-year-old admitted eight counts, including tax and bank fraud in a plea deal with prosecutors. In the court on Tuesday he said that he had been directed by "a candidate for federal office" to break federal election laws. The charges against him could carry prison time. He has pleaded guilty to: Five counts of tax evasion One count of making false statements to a financial institution One count of willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution One count of making an excessive campaign contribution at request of a candidate or campaign His sentencing is scheduled for 12 December.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 21, 2018 21:51:18 GMT
Hahahahaha!
Watch for some batshit tweeting tonight from Dolt45, the pathetic pos.
Some witch hunt, hey?
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Post by voice on Aug 21, 2018 21:59:40 GMT
no shortages of witches to hunt down Pennsylvania Ave these days obviously...
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Post by Marshall on Aug 21, 2018 22:03:06 GMT
Some people are saying the criminality NY state is looking into on Trump will be his downfall and not Mueller.
I love it when con men get their due.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 21, 2018 22:14:22 GMT
There's still no certainty that even if Trump is guilty of campaign finance violations that anything can be done.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 21, 2018 22:14:54 GMT
The best thing to do is keep putting all his crooked associates behind bars.
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Post by voice on Aug 21, 2018 22:19:10 GMT
I suspect he'll be dusting off his pardoning powers pretty soon given how many of the his cronies are either in jail or facing jail, the more he can keep from flipping the better he'll feel do doubt
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Post by flatandy on Aug 22, 2018 1:02:19 GMT
There's a glorious sideshow alongside today's main criminal indictments. 2 weeks ago, Chris Collins, the first congressman to endorse Trump, was indicted on all kinds of criminality. Today, Duncan Hunter, the second congressman to endorse Trump, has just been indicted. Hunter is Representative of a district that starts about 200 yards from me, and is a genuinely terrible person, but he's also the kind of person you're glad exists. Because he's basically a parody of the worst of all things. He has been described as a member of the Douche-Bro Caucus. During his time in office, he's been a shill for the tobacco industry, to the extent that during a hearing on banning e-cigs on planes he decided to vape. Another time, he decided to unilaterally suppress free speech and took down a painting from a Democrat congressman's office. He did this claiming that it's what Marines do to defend the country. So, we get to today's story. It turns out that Hunter has spent too much time and money drinking, and is always broke. So he used his campaign to finance holidays to Italy and Hawaii. He used it to buy ipods, dental work, beanies, trips to the hair salon. He one time used it to buy Hawaiian shorts, and went to a golf shop to buy them so that he could pretend that he was buying golf balls for a wounded warrior charity. Best of all, he used campaign finance money to fly his pet rabbit around! Not only is he hilarious, and hilariously corrupt, but he also tried to throw his wife under the bus. His wife - not coincidentally - is his campaign finance chairman and was getting a juicy salary for it, and is responsible for a bunch of the stolen money on the credit cards. But, at the same time that DoucheBro Hunter is suspected of having multiple affairs (today's indictment includes "spent $162 in campaign funds for a personal stay at the Liaison Capitol Hotel with Individual 14" on the campaign credit card) he tried to point out to investigators that his wife ran all the finances, was the campaign finance chair, and that some of the charges were made in San Diego while he was in Washington, so basically she's the guilty party... It's just a brilliant story of someone being a comically corrupt politician.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 22, 2018 1:05:25 GMT
The sad thing is that he probably won't lose his job, because his district - East County San Diego is full of right wing nutters. We are now at the point where there is literally no mechanism to remove him from the ballot, either. But if he does lose, it will be particularly brilliant - the amount of bile that will be spilled is astonishing. Because his Trumpiness would be replaced by Ammar Campar Najjar. Who is not only an alumnus from the Obama Whitehouse which is enough to drive these people nuts. But he's also half-Mexican, half-Palestinian. And! Get this - his grand-dad was once a financier for the PLO!
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Post by voice on Aug 22, 2018 1:48:13 GMT
Brilliant day all round then. Funny, Cohen who once said he'd take a bullet for Trump, ends up by knifing him in the back.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Aug 22, 2018 7:26:25 GMT
Will all this just fuel the nut-job cospiracy theories about the mainstream being out to get Trump because he's an outsider?
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Post by moggyonspeed on Aug 22, 2018 8:21:30 GMT
The sad thing is that he probably won't lose his job, because his district - East County San Diego is full of right wing nutters. We are now at the point where there is literally no mechanism to remove him from the ballot, either. But if he does lose, it will be particularly brilliant - the amount of bile that will be spilled is astonishing. Because his Trumpiness would be replaced by Ammar Campar Najjar. Who is not only an alumnus from the Obama Whitehouse which is enough to drive these people nuts. But he's also half-Mexican, half-Palestinian. And! Get this - his grand-dad was once a financier for the PLO! Cat. Pigeons. 'Nuff said.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 22, 2018 17:47:46 GMT
Will all this just fuel the nut-job cospiracy theories about the mainstream being out to get Trump because he's an outsider? Of course. His base that still supports him exhibits all the characteristics of a cult. Thousands of FBI, CIA and DOJ people are all secretly conspiring against Trump, who is the only person telling the truth.
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Post by Marshall on Aug 22, 2018 18:05:53 GMT
The really big news to come out of this is that Cohen's lawyer says they have evidence that Trump had advanced notice of Russia hacking the DNC. The idiot welcomed this on national TV if you remember.
Hard to squirm out of that one.
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Post by voice on Aug 22, 2018 18:10:59 GMT
but again the GOP are in total thrall to this chump, ffs quite a few were in the Senate and voted to impeach Clinton on what by comparison was a trivial matter, yet yesterday Graham and others were saying 'there's nothing see here, move along'
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Post by Marshall on Aug 22, 2018 18:19:30 GMT
When Clinton was in office, Graham actually said you don't need a crime to impeach, it's about "cleansing the office".
That never applied more than it does now.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 22, 2018 18:32:08 GMT
I actually think that if Cohen's lawyer isn't lying and they have actual proof that Trump knew in advance of the DNC hack, then that might finally be the tipping point, where some people in Congress feel sufficient shame that they might do something.
A couple of side points on that
1 - I'm not sure that impeaching Trump, or even kicking him out, actually achieves that much. You just get Pence in his place.
2 - The best path of resistance is to keep going for all of Trump's exceptionally corrupt cronies. Try and make sure that the administration can't do anything because Zinke and Ross and Sessions and Carson and DeVos are deeply in the sh*t trying to protect themselves, and will eventually be following Price and Pruitt into shame and oblivion. Cripple the actual Whitehouse by Jared and Ivanka and Steven Miller and the rest to spend all their time in meetings with their lawyers.
3 - Nothing will happen until after the mid-terms. This was always the case - the Republicans in Congress want to ride Trump's coat-tails as long as possible. Only if they see evidence that his coat-tails are f**k**g them will they bail out. The party wants the Trump base for this election. But if Trump is on his way out before 2020, expect all the establishment to do everything they can to leverage him out of office so suddenly they can pretend to be protectors of democracy blah bollocks.
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