Towering Inferno!

[ootlg]

Ah, the old consultant number.

[perrykneeham]

Shocking. Of course, these fuckers are professionals and know all the ropes. Leaseholds, especially flats, are bD news. Ones where you have the LA as the managing agents, even more so.

[Repat Van]

Dec 23, 2021 8:08:55 GMT perrykneeham said:

""Underneath the floorboards there were tiles with asbestos that were super cracked"

Bloody hell. She talks like a child.

Okay, to address Van's question: why do you think that a council would sell off housing stock, piecemeal? Could it be that it was no longer an economic entity and that by mixing private and council tenants they might get one to subsidise the other?

Also, the asbestos thing is very whiney. She'll be talking about old lino styles tiles which contain a small amount of encapsulated asbestos. Leave 'em alone and you'l be fine. Also, what was your surveyor doing when you had your buyer's report done?

So she’s “idiotic” for not automatically assuming nefarious reasons for council selling off housing stock?

And also “idiotic” for having an issue with asbestos?

Ok.


Is everybody who has purchased a council house an idiot, or just her?

[perrykneeham]

She's idiotic for not being a bit more circumspect and for not understanding not all asbestos is worse than the holocaust. As are you.

You would be wise to look good and hard at any property, especially one with shared liabilities and services.

[flatandy]

All asbestos is terrible because the regulations for dealing with the asbestos are incredibly onerous and expensive, no? Having asbestos tiles in the ceiling is trivially dangerous, having someone remove then - which you’re obliged to do once you realise the asbestos is there - is monstrously expensive. At least, that’s the way it seems here in Americaland.

[perrykneeham]

I don't think we have that obligation here. It just needs to go on an asbestos register so that everyone knows it's there and tradesman don't go drilling through it. Obviously, if it's some horrible blue asbestos killer logging, them it's got to go, but floortiles and after? Nah.

[voice]

Here, if you disturb it you have to remove it, at huge costs, but you can leave it well alone and it will be fine. A lot of plasterboard manufactured up to the 90's has asbestos in it here, makes renovations a pain in the arse as you have send samples off to be tested before getting going.

[ootlg]

Best thing since sliced bread, asbestos. Once. How long before they decide fibreglass insulation's baaad?

[voice]

well as far as I know fiberglass hasn't been shown to give you a particularly bad kind of cancer, but if such evidence emerges, no doubt we'll stop its use.

[mids]

I worked on a study once looking at asbestosis. All these old blokes, mostly ex merchant navy or dockers, who'd unloaded sacks of the stuff. Inevitably some of the sacks burst open. One of them said they'd had "snowball" fights by clumping it together into balls and chucking them at each other. Nobody had a clue. Poor cnuts. A couple of them were in tears at how they'd ended up.

[voice]

loads of mesothelioma here from those who used to be stevedores and those who worked in construction or power plants, one of the worlds biggest asbestos mines is here is Canada, though they changed the name of the town from Asbestos to Val-des-Sources a couple of years back.

Nasty disease.

[perrykneeham]

The shittiest type of asbestos was very popular as lagging on ships. That and as fire protection.

[perrykneeham]

Slowly, we are gurgling towards a sensible solution.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59935333

Of course, not all developers will be able to do this, but it really should lie with their PI insurers (assuming that they followed poor advice from their appointed BC surveyors and didn't decide to ignore their advice (in whic case the buck still stops with the PI as it should never have been signed off).

[voice]

yeah, those who clad buildings in det cord and wax paper should be on the hook for its removal.

[perrykneeham]

Bloody hell, this isn't good.

www.standard.co.uk/news/london/whitechapel-high-street-fire-aldgate-london-b986565.html

Look at the way the fire appears to spread. I say spread, but it's probably just flash-over as windows fail and allow more oxygen in to the fire. Dunno, but it ain't pretty.

[perrykneeham]

Khonflagration.

[perrykneeham]

Blooooody hell ..... what a total wanker.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61077196

[flatandy]

If only the Tories hadn't killed his uncle you wouldn't have to hear from him. It should be a cautionary tale. If the Tories stopped killing people your life would be better too.

[mids]

Whiner. <coughcompocough>

[flatandy]

Coughing? Is it smoky in there? Perhaps you should put a wet towel under the door and hope the cladding's OK.