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Post by nobody on Jun 15, 2017 14:20:15 GMT
Why do you think the people voted Labour in that part of London in the last election, because it was a Tory run council, and they were over the moon when Labour took that seat. Why did they,because they didn't like the way the Tower Block was being refurbished? I( don't know why they voted Labour, and doubt if you do. I suppose you think all the workforce voted Tory too. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jun 15, 2017 14:21:09 GMT
Just shows you how parts of London have become a third world like state. Which doesn't help when you have a Tory government in power who constantly cuts public spending. Bollocks. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jun 15, 2017 14:23:31 GMT
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Post by Whiterum on Jun 15, 2017 14:24:04 GMT
Why do you think the people voted Labour in that part of London in the last election, because it was a Tory run council, and they were over the moon when Labour took that seat. Why did they,because they didn't like the way the Tower Block was being refurbished? I( don't know why they voted Labour, and doubt if you do. I suppose you think all the workforce voted Tory too. I posted a link on page 2 with the reasons why they voted Labour, which was mainly down to not being listened too by the Tory council. |
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Post by nobody on Jun 15, 2017 14:25:38 GMT
Corbyn turned up to try and score a few Brownie points, To try and blame the present Gov is just stupid. The people responsible are the Contractors, and associated people. Which contractor? was there a contractor that was supposed to install a sprinkler that didn't? There would be a Main Contractor to oversee and co-ordinate the work, its normal practice. In this case, the Contractor was probably using "Lump Labour" common practice in these situations, just like in the Morecombe Cockle pickers incident. |
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Post by Whiterum on Jun 15, 2017 14:26:52 GMT
Just shows you how parts of London have become a third world like state. Which doesn't help when you have a Tory government in power who constantly cuts public spending. Bollocks. Nope, it certainly looks that way, a building built in the 70's that ended up being a deathtrap due to terrible maintenance. |
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Post by nobody on Jun 15, 2017 14:30:14 GMT
Nope, it certainly looks that way, a building built in the 70's that ended up being a deathtrap due to terrible maintenance. Terrible maintenance? It's just been re-furbished, albiet badly by all accounts. You must have inside knowledge here RR, The Fire service, Police, H&S don't know, perhaps you should be telling them, instead of posting here. |
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Post by jimboky on Jun 15, 2017 14:39:55 GMT
From what I read there was no sprinkler to maintain,
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Post by Whiterum on Jun 15, 2017 14:42:14 GMT
" instead of posting here." Nobody.
That is the saddest thing I have ever seen posted on here.
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Post by jimboky on Jun 15, 2017 14:48:50 GMT
Which contractor? was there a contractor that was supposed to install a sprinkler that didn't? There would be a Main Contractor to oversee and co-ordinate the work, its normal practice. In this case, the Contractor was probably using "Lump Labour" common practice in these situations, just like in the Morecombe Cockle pickers incident. did the contract include installing a fire sprinkler system? or did you expect the contractor to just through that in for free? |
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Post by nobody on Jun 15, 2017 14:50:12 GMT
" instead of posting here." Nobody. That is the saddest thing I have ever seen posted on here. Your knowledge is required elsewhere. The saddest part is the conclusions you arrived at, based solely on media outlets. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jun 15, 2017 14:52:07 GMT
Nope, it certainly looks that way, a building built in the 70's that ended up being a deathtrap due to terrible maintenance. A multi-million pound upgrade of social housing to improve energy efficiency doesn't sound like a particularly third world problwm to me. |
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Post by Whiterum on Jun 15, 2017 14:57:42 GMT
Nope, it certainly looks that way, a building built in the 70's that ended up being a deathtrap due to terrible maintenance. A multi-million pound upgrade of social housing to improve energy efficiency doesn't sound like a particularly third world problwm to me. Well it certainly went up in flames like a building from a third world country building to me. |
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Post by auldhippy on Jun 15, 2017 15:15:29 GMT
Well he's been proven wrong, this building was burning for a day and has not collapsed (23 hours more than 11/09). The fire brigade, and I say this without a shred of doubt in their braveness, had no qualms about entering the building because they basically had no fear of the building collapsing due to fire, they invariably never do. Despite 11/09 standard operating procedure for fighting high rise fires is still to fight it from within the buildings' structure as it always has been. Not that any means exists whereby any reasonable response is possible from without. Comparisons with WTC are meaningless. even WTC 7 was double the height, the Towers had structural damage from the impacts (& from a gas explosion in the UK example he used) and all the WTC buildings had steel frames forming structural integrity, this was a concrete building. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 15:21:45 GMT
" instead of posting here." Nobody. That is the saddest thing I have ever seen posted on here. Don't feed the troll. |
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Post by mids on Jun 15, 2017 15:34:48 GMT
Was the cladding to stop global warming then? I thought it was cosmetic.
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Post by perrykneeham on Jun 15, 2017 15:49:38 GMT
Well he's been proven wrong, this building was burning for a day and has not collapsed (23 hours more than 11/09). The fire brigade, and I say this without a shred of doubt in their braveness, had no qualms about entering the building because they basically had no fear of the building collapsing due to fire, they invariably never do. Despite 11/09 standard operating procedure for fighting high rise fires is still to fight it from within the buildings' structure as it always has been. Not that any means exists whereby any reasonable response is possible from without. Comparisons with WTC are meaningless. even WTC 7 was double the height, the Towers had structural damage from the impacts (& from a gas explosion in the UK example he used) and all the WTC buildings had steel frames forming structural integrity, this was a concrete building. Utterly clueless. Read the article and you'll see what a chump you're making of yourself. |
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Post by nobody on Jun 15, 2017 16:27:03 GMT
did the contract include installing a fire sprinkler system? Jim
I don't know Jim, I'm not the contractor, or am I party to that information.
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Post by nobody on Jun 15, 2017 16:28:27 GMT
" instead of posting here." Nobody. That is the saddest thing I have ever seen posted on here. Don't feed the troll. You still on drugs ootlg, or are you just being a dickhead? |
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Post by auldhippy on Jun 15, 2017 16:31:14 GMT
Well he's been proven wrong, this building was burning for a day and has not collapsed (23 hours more than 11/09). The fire brigade, and I say this without a shred of doubt in their braveness, had no qualms about entering the building because they basically had no fear of the building collapsing due to fire, they invariably never do. Despite 11/09 standard operating procedure for fighting high rise fires is still to fight it from within the buildings' structure as it always has been. Not that any means exists whereby any reasonable response is possible from without. Comparisons with WTC are meaningless. even WTC 7 was double the height, the Towers had structural damage from the impacts (& from a gas explosion in the UK example he used) and all the WTC buildings had steel frames forming structural integrity, this was a concrete building. Utterly clueless. Read the article and you'll see what a chump you're making of yourself. I have & I don't. If you have a point to make, fecking make it. or likely not based upon every prior interaction with you. Bare in mind this interaction is based upon you not reading correctly. |
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