Time To Shut Down The BBC

[bertruss2]

The names of every guest and episode are available...
Knock yourself out

So I see. What's the Globe? Is it a crap propaganda sheet? And what are Mr Rodrigues's credential as a political researcher? Assuming this is his work. Crucially, where's the label remainer or leaver beside every name. Also rather important is a list of episodes where Brexit was discussed. I know it comes up frequently, but I don't think absolutely every time.

In any case, it's rather difficult to know what would be individual votes on an, as yet, non-existent referendum. Which of the various Brexits do you envisage? A do-or-die self-destructive Boris Brexit? The existing Withdrawal Agreement. A Corbyn withdrawal agreement. A referendum, after a parliamentary vote or before it?

[Deleted]

Careful, you'll confuse him: "Does not compute...Does not compute...Does not compute..."

[mids]

Time to close down the BBC.

[flatandy]

Sept 21, 2019 16:53:27 GMT mids said:

Time to close down the BBC.

Nah! Just time to throw out the reactionary, conservative and Conservative journalists and journalistic ethos, get rid of their kowtowing to the royals and Oxbridge and 1922 committee and replace them with fair and balanced centrist journalists like Owen Jones, Polly Toynbee and Paul Mason.

[unclejunior]

Sept 21, 2019 19:26:30 GMT flatandy said:

Sept 21, 2019 16:53:27 GMT mids said:

Time to close down the BBC.

Nah! Just time to throw out the reactionary, conservative and Conservative journalists and journalistic ethos, get rid of their kowtowing to the royals and Oxbridge and 1922 committee and replace them with fair and balanced centrist journalists like Owen Jones, Polly Toynbee and Paul Mason.

Good one 😉
And let Momentum edit the programmes directly.....

[mids]

They already do, I think.

[flatandy]

Sept 21, 2019 21:05:50 GMT unclejunior said:

Sept 21, 2019 19:26:30 GMT flatandy said:

Nah! Just time to throw out the reactionary, conservative and Conservative journalists and journalistic ethos, get rid of their kowtowing to the royals and Oxbridge and 1922 committee and replace them with fair and balanced centrist journalists like Owen Jones, Polly Toynbee and Paul Mason.

Good one 😉
And let Momentum edit the programmes directly.....

That would make the BBC less extreme-right. It would be an improvement.

[Deleted]

Humphreys always was an arsehole though. Fitting that he saved his high-mindedness until now.

[unclejunior]

Don’t like Humphreys ......then try one or two others,
In Their Own Words
When people ask for evidence of an institutional Left-wing bias at the BBC, this is the place to go for evidence. Out of the mouths of Beeboids….

The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.

All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.

–Andrew Marr

“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.

“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor

By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. ­Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on ­running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.

– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter

“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.

“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”

– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General

“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”

– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997

I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.

– Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator, inter alia, of “Yes, (Prime) Minister”

“Liberal sceptical humanists tend to dominate television”.

The “default position in broadcasting” – when covering issues such as gay marriage and the Roman Catholic position on IVF – revolved around human rights, and that opponents should not be treated as “lunatics”.

“All I’m saying is, if you have at the centre of News an editor, he could explain why people in particular areas…are motivated, why they behave as they do and I think that would just increase understanding.”

– Roger Bolton, Radio 4 presenter and former head of Panorama and Nationwide

“And, in the tone of what we say about America, we have a tendency to scorn and deride. We don’t give America any kind of moral weight in our broadcasts.”

– Justin Webb (pg. 66), Today presenter and former BBC North America editor

“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.”

– Ben Stephenson, BBC controller of drama commissioning

[unclejunior]

Or alternatively watch their News programmes and laugh at their liberal left bias...

[Deleted]

Sept 22, 2019 8:02:02 GMT unclejunior said:

Don’t like Humphreys ......then try one or two others,
In Their Own Words
When people ask for evidence of an institutional Left-wing bias at the BBC, this is the place to go for evidence. Out of the mouths of Beeboids….

The BBC is “a publicly-funded urban organisation with an abnormally large proportion of younger people, of people in ethnic minorities and almost certainly of gay people, compared with the population at large”.

All this, he said, “creates an innate liberal bias inside the BBC”.

–Andrew Marr

“It’s a bit like walking into a Sunday meeting of the Flat Earth Society. As they discuss great issues of the day, they discuss them from the point of view that the earth is flat.

“If someone says, ‘No, no, no, the earth is round!’, they think this person is an extremist. That’s what it’s like for someone with my right-of-centre views working inside the BBC.”

– Jeff Randall, former BBC business editor

By far the most popular and widely read newspapers at the BBC are The Guardian and The Independent. ­Producers refer to them routinely for the line to take on ­running stories, and for inspiration on which items to cover. In the later stages of my career, I lost count of the number of times I asked a producer for a brief on a story, only to be handed a copy of The Guardian and told ‘it’s all in there’.

– Peter Sissons, Former BBC News and Current Affairs presenter

“In the BBC I joined 30 years ago [as a production trainee, in 1979], there was, in much of current affairs, in terms of people’s personal politics, which were quite vocal, a massive bias to the left. The organisation did struggle then with impartiality. And journalistically, staff were quite mystified by the early years of Thatcher.

“Now it is a completely different generation. There is much less overt tribalism among the young journalists who work for the BBC. It is like the New Statesman, which used to be various shades of soft and hard left and is now more technocratic. We’re like that, too.”

– Mark Thomspon, former BBC Director General

“I do remember… the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles. I’ll always remember that”

– Jane Garvey, Radio 4 presenter, recalling Tony Blair’s election victory in 1997

I absorbed and expressed all the accepted BBC attitudes: hostility to, or at least suspicion of, America, monarchy, government, capitalism, empire, banking and the defence establishment, and in favour of the Health Service, state welfare, the social sciences, the environment and state education. But perhaps our most powerful antagonism was directed at advertising. This is not surprising; commercial television was the biggest threat the BBC had ever had to face.

– Sir Antony Jay, former BBC producer and creator, inter alia, of “Yes, (Prime) Minister”

“Liberal sceptical humanists tend to dominate television”.

The “default position in broadcasting” – when covering issues such as gay marriage and the Roman Catholic position on IVF – revolved around human rights, and that opponents should not be treated as “lunatics”.

“All I’m saying is, if you have at the centre of News an editor, he could explain why people in particular areas…are motivated, why they behave as they do and I think that would just increase understanding.”

– Roger Bolton, Radio 4 presenter and former head of Panorama and Nationwide

“And, in the tone of what we say about America, we have a tendency to scorn and deride. We don’t give America any kind of moral weight in our broadcasts.”

– Justin Webb (pg. 66), Today presenter and former BBC North America editor

“We need to foster peculiarity, idiosyncrasy, stubborn-mindedness, left-of-centre thinking.”

– Ben Stephenson, BBC controller of drama commissioning

All preferable to the sort of Gleichschaltung that you'd prefer? You may have shot yourself in the foot there old son.

[perrykneeham]

Gleichschaltung is the old German name for Maastricht, isn't it?

[Deleted]

No

[unclejunior]

So at least we are agreed now ,that the El Beeb is a ridiculously lib lefty Remainer Project Fear mouthpiece with no balanced political opinions....
Three years on from the Ref vote and still not a single pro Brexit programme on the airwaves!

[Deleted]

How can anyone be pro an unknown?

[flatandy]

I think Uncle's list proves the point that the BBC - or, at least, BBC News - is full to the rafters of typical whiny right-wingers, who're all intent on pushing the overton window ever further rightwards.

[unclejunior]

Sept 22, 2019 13:00:07 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

How can anyone be pro an unknown?

....just ask the Project Fear news makers who knock out their stuff around the clock

[Deleted]

To repeat, Brexiters invented project fear.

[flatandy]

More accurately, Brexit is project fear.

[flatandy]

I see that Andrew Marr "forgot" to ask Raab about, and forgot to mention entirely, the massive Boris Johnson corruption scandal that was the lead piece in the Sunday Times today.

Oh yes, that's the BBC on their flagship politics program completely ignoring a massive scandal. That's the Andrew Marr who doesn't think the BBC is right-wing enough...