Time To Shut Down The BBC

[flatandy]

(John) Numpties

[nobody]

Well, she got to the semis, so we can claim her, If Zola Bud is. Brit,,,,,,,,,

[flatandy]

Except that Konta's been British since she was a teenager, has lived in Britain a very long time, sounds British, even managed to lose in the semi-final like a British player should. Unlike Budd, it's not a badge of convenience.

Not that it matters. Someone who holds a British passport is British. Humphries was coming over a bit 70s-NF with that ludicrous question.

[nobody]

Well, she's 26 yrs old now, so, yes 7 yrs a Brit teenager,  and represented Australia until 2012

Yup, can't get more British than that.

[Repat Van]

It was a bit of a cockish question but I always find the question of identity is such an interesting/confusing one for those of us who have lived in many places.

When I was just in Israel people asked where I was from and I answered "Australia" because I was travelling on my Aussie passport. But only after some hesitation. And really I don't feel Aussie, I just see myself as a Brit.

Yet the friend I was travelling with only sees herself as Canadian. She completely rejects her country of birth as a means of identification. I have also met Aussies who find it weird that I would support England over Australia in things such as the ashes.

Ho hum.

As for this player, she's a Briton and been here since her teens so I would just see her as a Brit.

[perrykneeham]

"the question of identity is such an interesting/confusing one for those of us who have lived in many places."

Not for me. I'm comfortable with my ethicity, nationality and cultural hinterland. It's settled and established. I enjoy and rejoice in the culture of other countries that I have lived in but remain who I am.

Vive la difference.

[Repat Van]

Not merely in how we may see ourselves but in how others may see us. And not ethnicity but "where you're from". And also that the same circumstances may lead to completely differing senses of identity depending on the person.

I remember when I was at uni and people would ask me where I was from. I would respond "Birmingham" without hesitation.

Now it seems odd saying that given I have lived more years outside of Birmingham than in it. I find it easier to say "I was born in Birmingham /the UK"

[perrykneeham]

It depends who's asking too. My ethnicity wouldn't necessarily be obvious nor would it mean much to some.

[Deleted]

Bit like Bloo on this one: I've lived away for years but I'm English; not Scottish, or Welsh, or Irish. Just English. In fact I could go further - I'm a Londoner.

[flatandy]

That's nice for you. It appears that Konta, who is British, thinks that she's British. So it's an odd question, and a very offensive way of asking it.

My cultural hinterland is upper middle class academic European. I've more in common with others in my class than I do with English, French or American peasants.

[perrykneeham]

I don't think I've ever heard anyone describe themselves as "upper middle class.'

[Deleted]

Your 'self' is a class thing? Mmmnn.. never looked at it that way.

[nobody]

The "class" thing shows just how English FA is 

[perrykneeham]

Nasty case of Tuscany Syndrome, I reckon. He'll be wearing linen suits next.😆

[mids]

The BBC are for the first time publishing the salaries of their overpaid "talent" later today.

[perrykneeham]

Only those over £ 150k. It would be interesting to see how many of the lefty turds are on £ 149,999.99 p.a.

Almost all of 'em, I'm guessing.

[mids]

I wonder to what extent the loathsome lefties will be able to hide behind their tax efficient non-productive companies? Will the BBC claim that payments made to these companies isn't "salary"?

[mids]

TV NON SCRIPTED (FACTUAL AND ENTERTAINMENT)



£150,000 – £199,999 Darcey Bussell – Contributor Mel Giedroyc – Presenter Craig Horwood – Contributor Paul Martin – Presenter Simon Schama – Presenter



£200,000 – £249,999 Gary Barlow – Contributor Len Goodman – Contributor Danii Minogue – Contributor Bruno Tonioli – Contributor Alan Yentob – Presenter



£300,000 – £349,999 Nick Knowles – Presenter



£350,000 – £399,999 Tess Daly – Presenter



£400,000 – £449,999 Alex Jones Presenter



NEWS AND CURRENT AFFAIRS



£150,000 – £199,999 Kamal Ahmed – Correspondent Jeremy Bowen – Correspondent Ben Brown – Presenter Mark Easton – Correspondent Gavin Esler – Presenter James Naughtie – Correspondent John Pienaar – Correspondent Sophie Raworth – Presenter John Simpson – Correspondent Kirsty Wark – Presenter Justin Webb – Presenter



£200,000 – £249,999 Victoria Derbyshire – Presenter Mishal Husain – Presenter Martha Kearney – Presenter Laura Kuenssberg – Correspondent Andrew Neil – Presenter Jonathan Sopel – Correspondent



£250,000 – £299,999 George Alagiah – Presenter Nicholas Robinson – Presenter



£300,000 – £349,999 Eddie Mair – Presenter



TV SCRIPTED (DRAMA AND COMEDY)



£150,000 – £199,999 Laurie Brett – Actor Letitia Dean – Actor Tameka Empson – Actor Guy Henry – Actor Linda Henry – Actor Scott Maslen – Actor Diane Parish – Actor Hugh Quarshie – Actor Jemma Redgrave – Actor Tim Roth – Actor Catherine Shipton – Actor Gillian Taylforth – Actor Lacey Turner – Actor



£200,000 – £249,999 Peter Capaldi – Actor Danny Dyer – Actor Emilia Fox – Actor David Jason – Actor Rosie Marcel – Actor Adam Woodyatt – Actor



£250,000 – £299,999 Amanda Mealing – Actor



£350,000 – £399,999 Derek Thompson – Actor



SPORT



£150,000 – £199,999 Jonathan Agnew – Presenter and commentator Clare Balding – Presenter Jonathan Davies – Presenter John McEnroe – Presenter and commentator



£200,000 – £249,999 John Inverdale – Presenter Gabby Logan – Presenter



£250,000 -£299,999 Jason Mohammad – Presenter



£300,000 – £349,999 Sue Barker – Presenter



£400,000 – £449,999 Alan Shearer – Presenter



£1,750,000 – £1,799,999 Gary Lineker – Presenter



MULTI GENRE



£150,000 – £199,999 Naga Munchetty – Presenter and Contributor



£200,000 – £249,999 Mark Chapman – Presenter Jools Holland – Presenter Dan Walker – Presenter



£250,000 – £299,999 Zoe Ball – Presenter Brian Cox – Presenter Evan Davis – Presenter



£350,000 – £399,999 Fiona Bruce – Presenter



£400,000 – £449,000 Andrew Marr – Presenter Stephen Nolan – Presenter



£450,000 – £499,999 Matt Baker – Presenter Claudia Winkleman – Presenter



£550,000 – £599,999 Huw Edwards



£600,000 – £649,000 John Humphrys – Presenter



£700,000 – £749,999 Jeremy Vine – Presenter



£850,000 – £899,999 Graham Norton – Presenter



£2,200,000 – £2,249,999 Chris Evans – Presenter



RADIO



£150,000 – £199,999 Adrian Chiles – Presenter Greg James – Presenter Shaun Keaveny – Presenter Moira Stuart – Presenter Jo Whiley – Presenter



£200,000 – £249,999 Mark Radcliffe – Presenter



£250,000 – £299,999 Ken Bruce – Presenter Scott Mills – Presenter Trevor Nelson – Presenter



£300,000 – £349,999 Lauren Laverne – Presenter



£350,000 – £399,999 Vanessa Feltz – Presenter Nicholas Grimshaw – Presenter Simon Mayo – Presenter



£400,000 – £449,999 Nicky Campbell – Presenter



£500,000 – £549,999 Steve Wright – Presenter



Specialist Contractors and Writers £150,000 – £199,999 Daryl Bramley – Programme Manager Colin Brown – Identity Architect Roy Clarke – Writer Patrick Foody – Analytics Architect Claire Hetherington – IT Programme Manager James Hewines – Technical Project Manager Daran Little – Writer Ruth Moreland – Project Manager Andy Pryor – Casting Manager Terence Reeves – Service Architect Noel Scotford – Programme Manager Richard Smith – Integration Lead

[Repat Van]

Jul 19, 2017 5:19:55 GMT flatandy said:

That's nice for you. It appears that Konta, who is British, thinks that she's British. So it's an odd question, and a very offensive way of asking it.

My cultural hinterland is upper middle class academic European. I've more in common with others in my class than I do with English, French or American peasants.

Whereas I see myself as staunchly working class with middle class habits.

[Repat Van]

Jul 19, 2017 9:09:49 GMT mids said:

The BBC are for the first time publishing the salaries of their overpaid "talent" later today.

Are they overpaid? How so? Is it above market?