Al Franken, bit of a perv as well

[perrykneeham]

Tony Wotsit's fall is gratifying partly because he is another of those talentless policy wonks that seem to get hatched by the political Establishment and various interest groups. Like the Millibands, Nick Glegg and Rory Stewart. Internships with the TUC, the EU or the Chief Rabbi, interspersed with reserved scholarships and exchanges with prestigious overseas unis etc. Cushy high level roles in organisations and corporations for which they have no obvious suitability or experience.

It's odd. It's like a sort of creepy masonic talent scouting exercise. Making sure your lad gets into the right swim lane.

[rick49]

Charges dropped against Alec Baldwin
hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/04/20/charges-dropped-against-alec-baldwin-n545304

[perrykneeham]

Someone I've never heard of alleged to have groped someone else I've never heard of.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66026515

[mids]

He sounds useless anyway. What the hell does this mean?

"Earlier this month he told the BBC he was "a businessman who will put digitalisation at the core of how I improve London"."

[perrykneeham]

He needs to keep his digits to himself. Still, it sounds like a politically motivated smear job by the antisemitic Labour BBC partei.

"Ms Goodwin spoke about the alleged assault in 2017 but did not name the official and said she chose to name him now as Mr Korski was running to be the Tory candidate for mayor of London."

[unclejunior]

The Bank the Dirt game
You gather dirt on your political opponent and bank it
Then when that person is about to do something like stand for election you release it to spoil their campaign.

Here we go “Daisy Goodwin accuses Tory mayoral hopeful (Daniel Korski )of groping”
She says a guy 10 years ago touched her breast as a meeting ended
and that she spoke about 6 years ago it but is only now releasing the name .

em Nope, if you think a guy is a sex abuser you say right away
why ? cos you have a duty to protect future victims.
Smearing him 10 years later is bad and is not judicial.

The new reporting is lazy the new BBC story is almost word for word as their 2017 story except they have added the guy’s name.

Worse still the BBC reporter doesn’t seem to know that NAMING him is NOT news cos the Telegraph already named him in 2017
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/14/david-cameron-aide-denies-groping-television-writer-downing/

[flatandy]

I think that's fair enough from her. It wasn't something that could be prosecuted as sexual assault. It's just creepy and unpleasant. He was a complete nonentity so there's no reason to go public, if she did nobody would have known or cared and nothing would have happened. Now he's decided to not be a nonentity SPAD but try and run the world, the public need to know he's unpleasant and creepy.

Also, as mentioned several million times, there are lots of reasons that people don't report theoretically prosecutable actual sexual assault (along with all the lower level abuse like this) immediately. It's a rotten argument to say that it can't possibly have happened if it wasn't reported to the police at the time.

[unclejunior]

Evidence in the matter currently equals zero ….so let’s ruin his potential career with some malicious gossip…

[perrykneeham]

Jun 27, 2023 11:36:10 GMT flatandy said:

I think that's fair enough from her. It wasn't something that could be prosecuted as sexual assault. It's just creepy and unpleasant. He was a complete nonentity so there's no reason to go public, if she did nobody would have known or cared and nothing would have happened. Now he's decided to not be a nonentity SPAD but try and run the world, the public need to know he's unpleasant and creepy.

Also, as mentioned several million times, there are lots of reasons that people don't report theoretically prosecutable actual sexual assault (along with all the lower level abuse like this) immediately. It's a rotten argument to say that it can't possibly have happened if it wasn't reported to the police at the time.

It can also be said that there are just as many reasons to have reported him at the time: not least that it might have prevented further assaults. It may also have been more credible and less likely to give the impression of political motivation.

[flatandy]

Well, it was reported in the media (without names) in 2016 if your concern is credibility. It may well have been reported to people in supposed authority at the time, but not in the media.

Equally, if the supposed authority is the current prime minister, the person in question is one of his darling SPADs, and the victim is working in politics media and access is essential for her job*, then it might be that she was in no position to make any complaints at the time.

* we see how essential access is when we see the first two columns from the Daily Mail's new "star" "political" columnist who's had his Westminster access privileges revoked.

[perrykneeham]

Without names.

[flatandy]

And? You think she was trying to save up an anecdote to sink a creepy and unpleasant Tory, she'd have used it against someone a bit more meaningful than a one of the* possible applicants to be Tory candidate in a losing London mayoral election.

* Editing this after reading that he's actually somehow made the shortlist despite being a non-entity who's never won any elected post in his life before.

[perrykneeham]

I think you probably have to have met the person about whom you are telling a groped anecdote. Unless you're saying she made it up.

[perrykneeham]

It's official, Daisy Goodwin is a showboating, privileged, thingy.

[Repat Van]

“em Nope, if you think a guy is a sex abuser you say right away
why ? cos you have a duty to protect future victims.
Smearing him 10 years later is bad and is not judicial.”

Men like you are EXACTLY the reason women don’t come forward immediately.

Being too scared / nervous to go to the authorities immediately is not the exception.

It’s the norm. To act like a woman not coming forward till years late means she is lying is stupid in the extreme. Also sometimes seeing him living his life happily prompts anger that his life has gone on as normal and they finally have enough of him getting away with it.

And no, they don’t have a “duty” to protect other victims. They have a duty to protect their own mental health (and with sexual assault convictions as low as they are - there is no evidence that coming forward will “protect other victims”.

[mids]

Turns out he's a horrible remainer so no surprise if he's also a groper.

[Repat Van]

Also from the looks of it it is never something that could be prosecuted but she is free to discuss what happened to her. Why does she have an obligation to protect his career?

[perrykneeham]

She's a wealthy, well educated, successful woman, and clearly well-connected. She was on Wimmins Hour this morning bitching about Conservative Central Office like they had f**k*d up her delivery from Harvey Nics.

Stone cold cunt.

[Repat Van]

This is probably the least shocking of the epidemic of rapey men in the public eye. But Brand trying to paint this as the “powers that be” trying to take him down makes this even worse:

“Comedian Russell Brand has been accused of rape, sexual assaults and emotionally abusing four women during the height of his fame.

The alleged assaults occurred between 2006 and 2013, while he was a presenter for BBC Radio 2 and Channel 4, and include an assault on a 16-year-old girl”


www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/russell-brand-allegations-dispatches-channel-4-latest-news-b2412805.html

[perrykneeham]

Haha. This seems massively overwrought. Is this the usual statutory rape line? TBH, the bloke's been swimming in a cesspool of Ladsladslads celebrity promiscuity forever and a day, and yet we're hearing complaints a decade on?

If he's behaved criminally he should be brought to book, but he was lionised for being sickeningly promiscuous and his partners were celebrated for being so onside and liberated.

This, to me, fails the sniff test. For now. It all feels a bit Kenyan.