So what's Brexit really about?

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Get a grip. Bercow's given us all the biggest hint as to what's going on: he's stated more than once that he'll remain speaker until Brexit's sorted; he's now said he's retiring as speaker on the 31st October. Ergo, No Deal, and he knows it (if anyone outside the cabinet has a grip on what's going on, it's him).

[mids]

Will the good news never end?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49646201

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Sept 10, 2019 10:47:54 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

Get a grip. Bercow's given us all the biggest hint as to what's going on: he's stated more than once that he'll remain speaker until Brexit's sorted; he's now said he's retiring as speaker on the 31st October. Ergo, No Deal, and he knows it (if anyone outside the cabinet has a grip on what's going on, it's him).

You've got a portrait of Bercow on your wall, haven't you?

[Deleted]

No, but I've got a video of Boris and Rees Mogg spit-roasting Theresa. There, that'll get you off.

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Better than your one of Corbyn and Bercow spit roasting Abbot.

[flatandy]

Bercow is apparently a horrible little bully, and crappy to his staff.

So he probably should go. Despite being a surprisingly competent speaker given that he's a Tory cunt.

[mids]

Glad we're out.

"The incoming European Commission was accused of dog-whistle politics after announcing the commissioner responsible for migration policy would be called the “vice-president for protecting our European way of life”. "

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/09/10/new-european-commission-caught-row-fascist-job-title/

[bertruss2]

Glad we're out.

You live in a fantasy world.

[wetkingcanute]

From the BBC.

Brexit: Labour manifesto unlikely to reveal Brexit stance

its manifesto will promise to reach a better Brexit deal, but is not expected to commit to either Leave or Remain.

Well that's clear then...

[flatandy]

It's completely clear.

(1) They're going to negotiate a much better deal than May has, despite agreeing with the EU that there's no other deal to be had and that Boris is talking sh*t about there being a magically better deal available.

(2) Having come back from Brussels with this great deal, they will not then campaign in favour of it because it's not good enough.

[wetkingcanute]

Thanks andy - the fog lifts

[perrykneeham]

Andy is the fog.

[mids]

The fag, more like.

[mids]

Democracy. De.mo.cra.cee.

"Fifty four per cent agree the referendum result should be respected, the survey by ComRes found. Just 25 per cent disagreed and 21 per cent didn’t know. Of those who voted Remain in 2016, more than a third (35 per cent) said they now wanted Brexit delivered."

[bertruss2]

There's no particular reason why MPs shouldn't campaign in an EU referendum as individuals, rather than follow a party line. In the first referendum, the Tory cabinet was split, but overwhelmingly in favour of staying in the EU.

Following the announcement of the referendum in February, 23 of the 30 Cabinet ministers (including attendees) supported the UK staying in the EU. (Wikipedia)

[Deleted]

Revoke's the only sensible solution but Johnson won't do that because he's Cummings's bitch. Which is a shame because he'd make a better name for himself. Also, he's afraid of Fartage.

[mids]

A rare outbreak of honesty from the lib dems. It looks like they're going to campaign to revoke article 50. That's been their position all along although they've not admitted it till now.

[moggyonspeed]

Indeed. Clear yellow water between the TorieSS and the Communists.

[mids]

Prorogation is illegal.

[moggyonspeed]

Incredible. Losing six votes alongside breaking the Law in your first, what - 50 days in power?

This has to be some kind of a record.

Still, all going to plan, as some would say.