So what's Brexit really about?

[moggyonspeed]

What - like Rome was? Before it became an Empire?

[voice]

bollox

though if that were true, not being a democratic society, you'd have no idea what an actual democracy is.

[perrykneeham]

Sept 11, 2019 15:36:01 GMT moggyonspeed said:

50% of Eswatini's GDP is accounted for by "Government services".

Good luck in trading in those. Perhaps you had Government Services Futures or other derivatives in mind?

Ah, what proportion of UK's economy is said to come from "the service sector" which is often held out as "the financial services sector" by Project Fear dicksplashes?

[perrykneeham]

Shall I give you a clue?

Government spending alone contributed "48% of GDP in 2009–10"

[mids]

We're just about hanging on to proper countryness at the moment.

[mids]

Directions to the Sunlit Uplands (SU) here:


Antigua and Barbuda 102,012 1.532 billion

Bahamas 395,361 12.16 billion

Barbados 285,719 4.797 billion

Belize 374,681 1.838 billion

Botswana 2.292 million 17.41 billion

Chile 18.95 million 277.1 billion

Colombia 49.07 million 309.2 billion

Costa Rica 4.906 million 57.06 billion

Dominica 73,925 562.5 million

Dominican Republic 10.77 million 75.93 billion

Ecuador 16.62 million 103.1 billion

El Salvador 6.378 million 24.81 billion

Eswatini 1.367 million 4.409 billion

Faroe Islands 49,290 2.477 billion

Fiji 905,502 5.061 billion

Grenada 107,825 1.119 billion

Guatemala 16.91 million 75.62 billion

Guyana 777,859 3.676 billion

Haiti 10.98 million 8.408 billion

Honduras 9.265 million 22.98 billion

Iceland 338,349 23.91 billion

Israel 8.712 million 350.9 billion

Jamaica 2.89 million 14.77 billion

Korea 51.47 million 1.531 trillion

Lesotho 2.233 million 2.639 billion

Lichenstein 37,810 6.289 billion

Madagascar 25.57 million 11.5 billion

Mauritius 1.265 million 13.34 billion

Mozambique 29.67 million 12.33 billion

Namibia 2.534 million 13.24 billion

Nicaragua 6.218 million 13.81 billion

Norway 5.258 million 398.8 billion

Palestinian Authority 4.817 million 15 billion

Panama 4.099 million 61.84 billion

Papua New Guinea 8.251 million 21.09 billion

Peru 32.17 million 211.4 billion

Seychelles 95,843 1.486 billion

South Africa 56.72 million 349.4 billion

St Kitts and Nevis 55,345 945.9 million

St Lucia 178,844 1.712 billion

St Vincent and the Grenadines 109,897 789.6 million

Suriname 563,402 3.324 billion

Switzerland 8.42 million 678.9 billion

Trinidad and Tobago 1.369 million 22.1 billion

Zimbabwe 16.53 million 17.85 billion

[perrykneeham]

Sept 11, 2019 16:38:31 GMT mids said:

Directions to the Sunlit Uplands (SU) here:

[flatandy]

You lot keep spelling Swaziland wrong.

[Deleted]

Liking your own non-posts now eh? Desperation.

[flatandy]

So, the government lied to the Queen and broke Scottish law with their proroguing. Interesting what happens next - apparently Scottish law was broken but English law wasn't. That's going to make life very tricky for the Supreme Court's appeal ruling. Although being the UK parliament they have to adhere to the laws of all parts of the Kingdom. I know Brexit is all an English Nationalist Project. The government, though, still pretend to be unionist. It's going to be hard for them to keep up that pretense much longer.

[perrykneeham]

Good.

[Deleted]

Ah. You're a nationalist. I thought you were a bigger man than that.

[perrykneeham]

No. I'm an internationalist.

[flatandy]

I don't think it's particularly good, but it might get very messy.

[mids]

Interesting the way the English court took the view that politics was none of its business but the Scottish court took the opposite view - rule by judges, which I've just learned today is a called a kritarchy. I think I prefer sovereignty to lie with the people who lend it to parliament where a government does the governing, rather than a small bunch of appointed judges.

[flatandy]

So it's your opinion that a government is unable break the law and can do whatever it wants? Literally everything the Corbyn government does when it comes into power in a couple of months should be unchallenged?

[perrykneeham]

Kuntarchy, more like.

[voice]

so, those sunny uplands.....

Riots on the streets, food prices rises and reduced medical supplies are real risks of the UK leaving the EU without a deal, a government document has said.

Ministers have published details of their Yellowhammer contingency plan, after MPs voted to force its release.

It outlines a series of "reasonable worst case assumptions" for the impact of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49670123

[flatandy]

It's worth noting that this exact document was described as "base case scenario" a week ago. Suddenly it's "reasonable worst case"...

[perrykneeham]

Sept 11, 2019 21:26:30 GMT voice said:

so, those sunny uplands.....

Riots on the streets, food prices rises and reduced medical supplies are real risks of the UK leaving the EU without a deal, a government document has said.

Ministers have published details of their Yellowhammer contingency plan, after MPs voted to force its release.

It outlines a series of "reasonable worst case assumptions" for the impact of a no-deal Brexit on 31 October.

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49670123

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