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Post by nobody on Mar 22, 2018 17:52:10 GMT
Peer reviewed doesn’t really count, just mean a group of like minded people agree.
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Post by voice on Mar 22, 2018 17:59:51 GMT
no, it really doesn't.
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Post by mids on Mar 22, 2018 18:21:08 GMT
It's like democracy. It's not perfect but there's no better method in existence.
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Post by voice on Mar 22, 2018 18:28:07 GMT
its pretty good at rooting out bullshit and debunking poorly done studies, cold fusion and MMR causing autism being some of the highest profile debunking arrived at quickly by peer reviewing.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 9:59:00 GMT
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2018 10:44:51 GMT
Thalidomide, hexachropehene
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Post by flatandy on Mar 25, 2018 13:55:24 GMT
Has anyone adult ever said that any pharma product is 100% safe?
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Post by voice on Mar 25, 2018 16:17:17 GMT
Thalidomide is still in use, just not for pregnant women, plus it was developed some 60 years ago a lot has changed and we know more now. Brining this up constantly as proof modern medicine is dangerous is like saying cos NASAs first generation of rockets blew up every time we should never trust modern lift vehicles.
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Post by voice on Mar 25, 2018 16:19:59 GMT
And the reason you get side effects from actual medicine and non from woo and snake oil is modern medicine has measurable effects while woo is mostly sugar pills or diluted water.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 16:20:05 GMT
Has anyone adult ever said that any pharma product is 100% safe? Voice. Millions of times. |
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Post by voice on Mar 25, 2018 16:25:33 GMT
And I'm sure you back that up with examples.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2018 16:28:55 GMT
Pulling your pisser, mate.
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2018 17:25:15 GMT
“They all laughed, when Christopher Columbus said the World was round”
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2018 17:48:41 GMT
Thalidomide is still in use, just not for pregnant women, plus it was developed some 60 years ago a lot has changed and we know more now. Brining this up constantly as proof modern medicine is dangerous is like saying cos NASAs first generation of rockets blew up every time we should never trust modern lift vehicles. I don’t think anyone is actually saying that. And certainly not constantly. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 25, 2018 18:02:45 GMT
And the reason you get side effects from actual medicine and non from woo and snake oil is modern medicine has measurable effects while woo is mostly sugar pills or diluted water. The EU = woo. |
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2018 18:24:02 GMT
Statins=woo=muscle damage=if you’re not careful or aware, you’ll be incapacitated for weeks.
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Post by voice on Mar 25, 2018 18:32:52 GMT
Statins work amazingly well and are credited with saving some 5.9 million people, again there are recognised side effects, most people have non of these side effects, some unfortunately have more, depending on the statin, but just cos a small number experience difficulties while taking them does not mean they are woo (after all we know statins have a measurable effect while woo is just placebo at best). scienceheroes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=126&Itemid=135 |
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2018 19:28:34 GMT
Credited with saving 5.9 million people, out of how many and from what?
I took them for five days, and couldn’t walk, took about 12 months to get back to anything like normal.
Put on a different variety to lower mu cholesterol, side effect not too bad until about 11months, loss of strength in my arms, and constantly aching. Stopped taking them, a month later and strength is coming back. Coincidence? Maybe
After my review, my cholesterol is down from 4.5 to 4.0
Do you call that success?
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Post by voice on Mar 25, 2018 19:42:36 GMT
You are doing your usual and thinking your own experiences are typical then extrapolating that everyone. Your like bloke who gets a flat tire then goes round telling everyone else tires are crap and not worth using on your car, it's idiotic, but then it's you so muff said
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Post by nobody on Mar 25, 2018 19:49:17 GMT
And the 5.9 million out of how many were saved from what?
I could say others have had similar experience, and then you’d ask for a link etc etc.
Do you deny many have muscular, joint problems after taking statins?
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