Modern medicine is just amazing

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I wouldn't want to do your job. So full marks there.

[Repat Van]

Dec 28, 2019 17:38:45 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

1. The word I used was actually 'decreased' not 'increased'. It's quite important that you read this correctly.

2. OK

3. If everyone was healthy you'd have to find another job and all the big pharmas would go bust.

As an aside, I've had flu 3 times in my life; real flu, where the first sign is you think you're going to die and the second is you hope you're going to die. If vaccines work, why aren't I immune already? Surely the real thing offers better immunity than the jab?

Even my doc said the vaccine's a bit of a shot in the dark (it would be in Van's case I suppose).

Racist.

[rick49]

Looks like the vaccine effectiveness is cumulative if you get it every year.

Here's another reason to get flu shots every year

"Here’s a good reason to get a flu shot every single year: people who got a new vaccination every flu season were less likely to die or end up in the hospital with severe flu, a new study shows."

"A look at people taken to the hospital with influenza showed that those who had been vaccinated repeatedly did better than those who had only been vaccinated in the current year."

"The study of people over 65 — who are most likely to die from influenza — showed that repeated vaccination was twice as good at preventing the most severe complications of flu."

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-s-another-reason-get-flu-shots-every-year-n835901

Like someone else said, if you get the flu it's like being hit by a freight train, and you actually want to die. Even if you still get the flu, you will still get some protection with the vaccine. Beats dying or being hospitalized, yes?

[rick49]

Most Kids Who Died of Flu Weren't Vaccinated, Study Finds

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/most-kids-who-died-flu-weren-t-vaccinated-study-finds-n742046

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Dec 28, 2019 19:10:19 GMT Repat Van said:

Dec 28, 2019 17:38:45 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

1. The word I used was actually 'decreased' not 'increased'. It's quite important that you read this correctly.

2. OK

3. If everyone was healthy you'd have to find another job and all the big pharmas would go bust.

As an aside, I've had flu 3 times in my life; real flu, where the first sign is you think you're going to die and the second is you hope you're going to die. If vaccines work, why aren't I immune already? Surely the real thing offers better immunity than the jab?

Even my doc said the vaccine's a bit of a shot in the dark (it would be in Van's case I suppose).

Racist.

Nothing wrong with being dark.

[flatandy]

1 - it’s not a scam

2 - it does more than reduce your chances of getting a particular strain:it also protects everyone else because you have less chance of infecting them.

2a - And it reduces the impact of other strains on you

2* - even if all it did was reduce your chance of getting the most common strain each year that would be worthwhile. Why would you choose to get hit by a freight train every 5 years when you could reduce that to every 15?

3 - it doesn’t particularly help make rich people richer

[Repat Van]

Dec 28, 2019 22:26:58 GMT rick49 said:

Looks like the vaccine effectiveness is cumulative if you get it every year.

Here's another reason to get flu shots every year

"Here’s a good reason to get a flu shot every single year: people who got a new vaccination every flu season were less likely to die or end up in the hospital with severe flu, a new study shows."

"A look at people taken to the hospital with influenza showed that those who had been vaccinated repeatedly did better than those who had only been vaccinated in the current year."

"The study of people over 65 — who are most likely to die from influenza — showed that repeated vaccination was twice as good at preventing the most severe complications of flu."

www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/here-s-another-reason-get-flu-shots-every-year-n835901

Like someone else said, if you get the flu it's like being hit by a freight train, and you actually want to die. Even if you still get the flu, you will still get some protection with the vaccine. Beats dying or being hospitalized, yes?

My immune system handled it and I had time off work so win win. I still avoid the vaccine.

[mids]

Impossible. Im-possible.

"So, it is impossible to tell for sure if you have the flu based on symptoms alone."

www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/testing.htm

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Which sort of puts the cat among the pigeons, eh?

[voice]

It's my experience most people who claim to have the flu don't, a heavy cold and a bit of a cough is not flu, yet so many self diagnose it as such.

[jimboky]

I've took the flu shot the last 3 years, I have not had the flu for over 20 years, can't really remember having it, do I credit the shot with not getting the flu?

[mids]

Dec 29, 2019 17:42:51 GMT voice said:

It's my experience most people who claim to have the flu don't, a heavy cold and a bit of a cough is not flu, yet so many gaylords self diagnose it as such.

Yup. Vania etc.

[Repat Van]

Dec 29, 2019 17:42:51 GMT voice said:

It's my experience most people who claim to have the flu don't, a heavy cold and a bit of a cough is not flu, yet so many self diagnose it as such.

When I last had flu I know because it was diagnosed by my doctor after a battery of tests.

[Repat Van]

Dec 29, 2019 17:58:09 GMT mids said:

Dec 29, 2019 17:42:51 GMT voice said:

It's my experience most people who claim to have the flu don't, a heavy cold and a bit of a cough is not flu, yet so many gaylords self diagnose it as such.

Yup. Vania etc.

You calling a medical professionals diagnosis a “self-diagnosis”.

Eh?

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I think mids has gone mad.

[voice]

Gone?

[rick49]

Prediabetes Now Common Among Teens

"A person with prediabetes has higher than normal blood sugar levels. The levels aren't yet high enough to be considered type 2 diabetes. But often, people who have prediabetes go on to develop type 2 diabetes."

"The good news? "Prediabetes can be reversed," she said.

www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/prediabetes-teens/2019/12/03/id/944247/?ns_mail_uid=1063f1fa-3d89-4fdc-8029-174ad85f325e&ns_mail_job=DM82107_01122020&s=acs&dkt_nbr=010502qyw12x

[jimboky]

that I think is more of a life-style choice, instead of santa bringing them a basketball/football/baseball he is giving them a phone, you here rarely see kids out playing, even in my neighborhood, would be a great place to ride bikes, there is a school about a mile or so away, you never see kids there playing basketball, or tennis, seem to spend their time on couch with their phone

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Too dangerous to go out.

[rick49]

Jan 13, 2020 0:36:28 GMT jimboky said:

that I think is more of a life-style choice, instead of santa bringing them a basketball/football/baseball he is giving them a phone, you here rarely see kids out playing, even in my neighborhood, would be a great place to ride bikes, there is a school about a mile or so away, you never see kids there playing basketball, or tennis, seem to spend their time on couch with their phone

Exactly.