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[perrykneeham]

It doesn't have to say it. Actions.

Silly girl.

[voice]

Not sure why you're so upset about most that Dr's get paid well but still expect a decent pay rise in line rising living standards or just that they have an association that is fighting for them alone, as this shows contempt for every one else.

your obsessive hatred of health care is very odd.

[voice]

Oh we can only afford 1% for health care workers, but can shovel millions in bribes to car companies and millions more to tory donors and mates of the PM for various failed schemes?

weird that

[flatandy]

Jul 2, 2021 12:51:13 GMT perrykneeham said:

Jul 2, 2021 12:43:18 GMT flatandy said:

Awww! Baloo still believes that people who have a "vocation" should do it for free because they love their work and think it's important. Not that people doing important work should get compensated properly for the value they bring.

Do they bring more value that the nurses in terms of marginal pay rises? What are doctors paid in, say, France which has many, many more of them per head of population?

Did you not notice in your article that the nurses are asking for a bigger pay rise than the doctors are?

Also, why is their French equivalents' pay relevant? You told us that they shouldn't be asking for money because they think their job is important. If that was the case then what anyone gets paid anywhere else doesn't matter

[voice]

Nurses should be asking for more, they've been historically under paid for the job they do.

[flatandy]

So have people working the the space between digital cartography, computer graphics and the public understanding of science... terribly underpaid.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 2, 2021 13:08:27 GMT flatandy said:

Jul 2, 2021 12:51:13 GMT perrykneeham said:

Do they bring more value that the nurses in terms of marginal pay rises? What are doctors paid in, say, France which has many, many more of them per head of population?

Did you not notice in your article that the nurses are asking for a bigger pay rise than the doctors are?

Also, why is their French equivalents' pay relevant? You told us that they shouldn't be asking for money because they think their job is important. If that was the case then what anyone gets paid anywhere else doesn't matter

Eventually, the nurses are asking.

"You told us that they shouldn't be asking for money because they think their job is important."

Made up.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 2, 2021 13:14:29 GMT voice said:

Nurses should be asking for more, they've been historically under paid for the job they do.

Do you think that the job has changed too?

[Repat Van]

Jul 2, 2021 14:26:42 GMT perrykneeham said:

Jul 2, 2021 13:08:27 GMT flatandy said:

Did you not notice in your article that the nurses are asking for a bigger pay rise than the doctors are?

Also, why is their French equivalents' pay relevant? You told us that they shouldn't be asking for money because they think their job is important. If that was the case then what anyone gets paid anywhere else doesn't matter

Eventually, the nurses are asking.

"You told us that they shouldn't be asking for money because they think their job is important."

Made up.

So you posted an article without reading it.

Again.

[ootlg]

French GPs average about €10k a month before tax and social charges. Ranges from c. €5k to €20k.

Income tax rates (according to google):

Up to €10,084: 0%
€10,085–€25,710: 11%
€25,711–€73,516: 30%
€73,517–€158,222: 41%
€158,223+: 45%

Social charges complex but around 8 -10%

[perrykneeham]

Jul 2, 2021 16:31:45 GMT Repat Van said:

Jul 2, 2021 14:26:42 GMT perrykneeham said:

Eventually, the nurses are asking.

"You told us that they shouldn't be asking for money because they think their job is important."


So you posted an article without reading it.
Made up.

Do you have a point? You know, in general.

[Repat Van]

Jul 2, 2021 16:42:14 GMT ootlg said:

French GPs average about €10k a month before tax and social charges. Ranges from c. €5k to €20k.

Income tax rates (according to google):

Up to €10,084: 0%
€10,085–€25,710: 11%
€25,711–€73,516: 30%
€73,517–€158,222: 41%
€158,223+: 45%

Social charges complex but around 8 -10%

Only the Bear would think French salaries have any reference to UK salaries.

[perrykneeham]

Why's that? You think the economies aren't broadly comparable?

[perrykneeham]

Jul 2, 2021 16:42:14 GMT ootlg said:

French GPs average about €10k a month before tax and social charges. Ranges from c. €5k to €20k.

Income tax rates (according to google):

Up to €10,084: 0%
€10,085–€25,710: 11%
€25,711–€73,516: 30%
€73,517–€158,222: 41%
€158,223+: 45%

Social charges complex but around 8 -10%

Link? To the salary bit. 10k a month.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 2, 2021 16:42:14 GMT ootlg said:

French GPs average about €10k a month before tax and social charges. Ranges from c. €5k to €20k.

Income tax rates (according to google):

Up to €10,084: 0%
€10,085–€25,710: 11%
€25,711–€73,516: 30%
€73,517–€158,222: 41%
€158,223+: 45%

Social charges complex but around 8 -10%

Average salary for a French GP is about 56k. Not 120K.

[mids]

€10k? That's what, about £3.75?

[perrykneeham]

Dunno. Ask Van. She knows everything about France. She's been there, apparently. Who knew?

[perrykneeham]

I've spent a bit of time looking at rates of pay and number of doctors per head of population. In crude numbers, UK has about 20% fewer doctors and they are paid about 20% more than comparable countries.

[ootlg]

Jul 2, 2021 17:21:23 GMT perrykneeham said:

Jul 2, 2021 16:42:14 GMT ootlg said:

French GPs average about €10k a month before tax and social charges. Ranges from c. €5k to €20k.

Income tax rates (according to google):

Up to €10,084: 0%
€10,085–€25,710: 11%
€25,711–€73,516: 30%
€73,517–€158,222: 41%
€158,223+: 45%

Social charges complex but around 8 -10%

Average salary for a French GP is about 56k. Not 120K.

Un médecin généraliste gagne entre 4 297 € bruts et 17 072 € bruts par mois en France, soit un salaire moyen de 10 684 € bruts par mois, avant paiement des charges et impôts qui représentent environ 60% des revenus des professions libérales.

link

[perrykneeham]

Difficult this as different sites tell you different things. I've looked a lot quite a few Yours is something of an outlier.