When are we just going tell vegans to fcuk right off?

[voice]

Those leaf guards look ok, but id worry leaves would just collect on top of the filter and the water would miss the gutter in places all together and end up just pouting over the edge and down the wall

[flatandy]

Well, so far the leaves have just blown or washed off quickly and the gutter has been guttering fine.

[perrykneeham]

Nov 30, 2020 18:13:28 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

I've got aircon going in . new skylight. new flooring.Cupborads. Flooring skirting boards. Roof re asphelting by Dave "the pot".
CB is putting in the skirting board and cupboards.

Aircon FFS? That's just ridiculous. Our building regs now mean that our dwellings are so thermally efficient that we now have to burn fossil fuels to cool them down. I said this would happen.

Won't be a problem when we go fully nuclear.

[perrykneeham]

Is that a flat roof Ming?

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

My office is basically in the loft and it gets hotter than Hades sometimes, hence the Aircon. Not all the house.

And yes it's a flat roof at the back that's being redone. I was quoted £14k but Dave the pot is redoing it for £750.

[flatandy]

When we re-do our roof it'll be standing seam metal, not asphalty stuff. Better insulation, better for snow, but not cheap. Hence the fact that we are waiting.

[perrykneeham]

Nov 30, 2020 18:45:10 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

My office is basically in the loft and it gets hotter than Hades sometimes, hence the Aircon. Not all the house.

And yes it's a flat roof at the back that's being redone. I was quoted £14k but Dave the pot is redoing it for £750.

Hmmmm .... dunno, but that seems to be spoiling the ship for a hap'orth o' tar. Have you considered fibreglass or EPDM? £14K is a kamikaze price. Did you get several quotes or just Norman Foster?

Also, if you're putting in Veluxes, put in two or more on opposing elevation and they'll allow a through-draft which will skim the hot, muggy air from your loft office.

[wetkingcanute]

or just employ a Punkah Wallah

[perrykneeham]

Another one? He's not made of money.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

I've had the whole world and his dog round.
The flat roof that has been asphalted isn't the same roof as the one the skylight is going in.there isn't really the option of opposing elevation on the loft space. It's a slightly odd building. I bought it off the builders. It's the only actual house on the street so one side virtually butts up against the flats on the left.

[perrykneeham]

Nov 30, 2020 19:27:57 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

I've had the whole world and his dog round.
The flat roof that has been asphalted isn't the same roof as the one the skylight is going in.there isn't really the option of opposing elevation on the loft space. It's a slightly odd building. I bought it off the builders. It's the only actual house on the street so one side virtually butts up against the flats on the left.

I still reckon you'd be better off with a velux or two and maybe a fan. Once you've got a velux in, the air will naturally rise up through the house. It's lovely. Actually quite elegant.

Honestly, there's something horribly out of plumb with £750 v £14K. It's only a flat roof. I'd almost understand it if you were going with patinated zinc. I tell you what, I'd do it for £13k, mates rates.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

I've slightly done a puncture repair on the roof. It'll be good for a couple of years and the CB has her eyes on knocking that bit of the house around sometime. I can't afford to do it all in one hit. There's new bathrooms and sh*t going in too.
So Dave the pot it was.

[flatandy]

We had a "whole house fan" in the last house, and it was great. Sucked all the warm air up out of the roof. It couldn't quite handle the days and days of Southern California summer, so we blasted the air-con, too. (And the house was built out of spit and tissue paper because that's what Californians do to avoid dying in earthquakes, so the insulation was crap)

[wetkingcanute]

ming at home

[mids]

This was me over the summer.

[Repat Van]

Nov 30, 2020 18:13:28 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

I've got aircon going in . new skylight. new flooring.Cupborads. Flooring skirting boards. Roof re asphelting by Dave "the pot".
CB is putting in the skirting board and cupboards.

I have air on through out and it’s a godsend. I don’t think I could live in a place without aircon.

Definitely not in Australia anyhow.

[flatandy]

“When I replace my roof” may have been premature. We’d had a small leak around the chimney during the previous storm and thought it had been fixed by our chimney guy who is going to replace the cap that sits over the thing. But last night there was a pretty substantial leak on the other side of the chimney into the kitchen, so maybe just re-tarring it isn’t enough of a fix.

[perrykneeham]

Ah. Death by a thousand cuts. Water's a sod: it'll always find a once there's a way in.

You need to get a proper job done.

[voice]

We need a new roof at Chateau Voice, been using that Flex Seal stuff in various places to keep it going for while longer, but as you say water always finds a way.

[perrykneeham]

Yep. It's a horror. I imagine it's even worse with shingles.