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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 20, 2019 19:08:26 GMT
Labour.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 20, 2019 19:19:25 GMT
It'd be interesting to know where she studied law. Of course, she's not actually a barrister.
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 20, 2019 22:23:12 GMT
Since Israel is constitutionally racist, it's difficult for non-racists to be in favour of it. Unless you are a religious loony. The vast majority of Israel supporters are actually Christians. American evangelical Christians who believe that the settlement of Jews in Israel is a preliminary to the end of the world and the ascent of the faithful to Heaven.
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Post by avieder on Mar 20, 2019 22:46:11 GMT
Since Israel is constitutionally racist, it's difficult for non-racists to be in favour of it. Unless you are a religious loony. The vast majority of Israel supporters are actually Christians. American evangelical Christians who believe that the settlement of Jews in Israel is a preliminary to the end of the world and the ascent of the faithful to Heaven. , "A land for the Jewish people." A people of all races of the world who hold the same religion for two Millenea. Yet in your eyes this is racism. OK. You have a very unique understanding of the meaning of race. Rather similar to that woman on Air India flight.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 8:11:14 GMT
It's a fact that non-Jewish Arabs are Semitic. Israel's treatment of Palestinians and other middle eastern tribes is therefore anti-Semitic, no?
Weren't/aren't there 12 Tribes of Israel, of which yours is but one - Judah?
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 9:41:11 GMT
It's a fact that non-Jewish Arabs are Semitic. Israel's treatment of Palestinians and other middle eastern tribes is therefore anti-Semitic, no? Weren't/aren't there 12 Tribes of Israel, of which yours is but one - Judah? True. There are very many nations who stem from Shem son of Noah. English and French and Romans all can be traced back to Shem... In the Middle ages I believe Jews were singled out. Israel treats Arabs only in the context of their behaviour. Look at Israeli Arabs who are the most prosperous Arabs in the world and in contrast look at the way other Arabs treat each other. The moment the hostile Arabs shake off the lies that you know who planted in them we can return and behave like brothers Yitzhak and Yishmael.
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 9:50:40 GMT
...As to the tribes: True there are 12 tribes. After King Shlomo the nation was split in two, Judea and Yisrael. Nebuchadnezzar disperses Yisrael (the 10 lost tribes) The Romans dispersed Judea. Thus Jews are of all the tribes that constituted Judea.
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Post by mids on Mar 21, 2019 13:27:14 GMT
I'm pro-Israel.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2019 14:58:53 GMT
Thanks for your straight answer Avi.
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Post by Gort on Mar 21, 2019 18:08:04 GMT
Im all for Israel knocking six pails of shiit out of those Muslim terrorist retards. But Avi you are a racist cos I once asked you if you would let your daughter marry a non jew and you said no and you said WE like to keep things traditional. Well if jewish tradition is not to marry out with their religion then you are down there with the religiously retarded Muslims because my friend, that is Racism not tradition. If a non jew were to say Fuk that, we dont marry Jews then Im sure you would find that racist not tradition unless your tradition is to be racist.. But hey Im still all for you guys wastin Pedophile worshipers... Enjoy..
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Post by wetkingcanute on Mar 21, 2019 18:18:34 GMT
Well, me Lady wife - a nice Jewish girl married a Goyim like me. Her twin brother married a Shiksa - a nice Catholic girl called Wendy.
And my Sister - also a Shiksa married a Jewish bloke - so he technicality married out as well - although she converted before she married.
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 18:30:02 GMT
Im all for Israel knocking six pails of shiit out of those Muslim terrorist retards. But Avi you are a racist cos I once asked you if you would let your daughter marry a non jew and you said no and you said WE like to keep things traditional. Well if jewish tradition is not to marry out with their religion then you are down there with the religiously retarded Muslims because my friend, that is Racism not tradition. If a non jew were to say Fuk that, we dont marry Jews then Im sure you would find that racist not tradition unless your tradition is to be racist.. But hey Im still all for you guys wastin Pedophile worshipers... Enjoy.. I guess we live by different and even contradictory standards. We see ourselves as a link in a chain of generations. History proves that all other nations disappeared. But we are steadfast dispite persecutions. You can call it racist if you like although I doubt that even you can catagorise common belief as "race".
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Post by Gort on Mar 21, 2019 18:56:19 GMT
Ok your right fuk the racist catagory then its Bigotry and you know exfuckingzactly where Im comming from. Im an atheist. To me religions are just like clubs, cults, gangs, football supporters etc but much much more dangerous because they kill people over their retarded beliefs. To believe in gods is like believing in santa claus, the tooth fairy and lepracauns, I mean furfuxake those dumb muslims actually believe that their pedophile prophet Mohamhead actually flew to heaven on a fuking winged horse now seriously fuk me how fukin retarded must you be to believe lunatic shiit like that.. How badly brain washed must some one be to actually believe that child minded crap.. Religion is out dated and belongs back when they believed the world was flat and burnt people for being witches.
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Post by perrykneeham on Mar 21, 2019 19:17:05 GMT
Yep. That's the standard for atheism.
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Post by bertruss2 on Mar 21, 2019 20:52:58 GMT
Not if we put human rights before claims of racial superiority.
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 21:40:10 GMT
The Ultra-Orthodox Jews are an economic burden on Israel, because the lazy b dastard men won't work. They also have a problem with education, and hate their daughters mixing with African and middle Eastern Jews. So many different types of Jews from around the world are now living in Israel, it's difficult to tell what the religion is all about. Very nicely put, red. See, dispite the fact that we gathered back to our only homeland after two thousand years of being seperated and each community developed its own custom to survive in hostile countries still when we returned home we are one people. With differences in minute details but are joined by the one common denominator the TORAH. The three footing of: The people of Israel living by the TORAH of Israel in the land of Israel. Will never fall.
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 21:51:58 GMT
Ok your right fuk the racist catagory then its Bigotry and you know exfuckingzactly where Im comming from. Im an atheist. To me religions are just like clubs, cults, gangs, football supporters etc but much much more dangerous because they kill people over their retarded beliefs. To believe in gods is like believing in santa claus, the tooth fairy and lepracauns, I mean furfuxake those dumb muslims actually believe that their pedophile prophet Mohamhead actually flew to heaven on a fuking winged horse now seriously fuk me how fukin retarded must you be to believe lunatic shiit like that.. How badly brain washed must some one be to actually believe that child minded crap.. Religion is out dated and belongs back when they believed the world was flat and burt people for being witches. Sure, there are religions that are based on physically impossible stories as you quoted. I can add more.... But and that is a giant BUT. Religion is also a way of life. It has laws about how a person should behave, the integrity of the family as a core to the community. The laws governing the community like sancsity of life and property. Humanity cannot exist or evolve without these laws.
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 21:56:02 GMT
Not if we put human rights before claims of racial superiority. Please be more specific about what you call "human rights". Understanding that term is the key, in my humble opinion to all conflicts.
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Post by voice on Mar 21, 2019 22:08:07 GMT
Ok your right fuk the racist catagory then its Bigotry and you know exfuckingzactly where Im comming from. Im an atheist. To me religions are just like clubs, cults, gangs, football supporters etc but much much more dangerous because they kill people over their retarded beliefs. To believe in gods is like believing in santa claus, the tooth fairy and lepracauns, I mean furfuxake those dumb muslims actually believe that their pedophile prophet Mohamhead actually flew to heaven on a fuking winged horse now seriously fuk me how fukin retarded must you be to believe lunatic shiit like that.. How badly brain washed must some one be to actually believe that child minded crap.. Religion is out dated and belongs back when they believed the world was flat and burt people for being witches. Sure, there are religions that are based on physically impossible stories as you quoted. I can add more.... But and that is a giant BUT. Religion is also a way of life. It has laws about how a person should behave, the integrity of the family as a core to the community. . like talking snakes and a boat capable of holding 2 of every creature on the planet, then afterwards those creatures walking back to their particular environment such as Kangaroos, leaving not a single trace of themselves, or talking bushes and so on. Though really Avi, we are not that far apart, you no doubt think of the roughly 4,200 religions in the world 4199 are nonsense, I just think its one more than you do.
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Post by avieder on Mar 21, 2019 23:29:42 GMT
To Voice and all. It is impossible to understand the Bible "stories" at face value. People did not become sensible only recently. There were great scholars and phylosophers before us. The tale of the Creation, snake, Noah's arc, are all basses of deeper understanding. Like each "day" of creation could be millions of years in our time scale but for G-d they are one day. The snake could be a manifestation of a human trait. Noah's arc can be seen today as a capsule with embrios or a space ship.... The important thing is to grasp the concept that the universe was created with a purpose and objective. Our sages are discussing each and every letter together with the connection between all the words. I am an ignoremous partly because I started studying late in life and partly because I am just too dull to understand, but every religion has its true scholars that can shed light to the verses. Atheists are the most religious of all: They feel that they are Gods and understand everything by themselves.
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