WOKE up this morning ....

[flatandy]

And here's a special one for Rick. Totally harmless, pretty silly, pointless, and - of course - from Berkeley:

www.berkeleyside.com/2019/07/16/city-council-to-consider-abolishing-gender-specific-pronouns-in-berkeley-municipal-code

The measure would also change other terminology. “Manhole” would be changed to “maintenance hole,” “manpower” would be changed to “human effort” and “sorority” or “fraternity” would be changed to “collegiate Greek system residence,” according to the ordinance.

[reverend]

Jul 17, 2019 12:34:21 GMT rick49 said:

Pressley: Democrats don't need any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice



"Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) reportedly said Democrats don't need "any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice" during a liberal Netroots Nation conference on Saturday, a comment that comes as racial politics threaten to divide the party."

“This is the time to shake that table. ... We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice,” Pressley reportedly said during the event. “We don’t need any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.”

"Pressley and fellow freshman Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) clashed with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) after the four progressives did not vote for a border aid package last month when Pelosi put forward a Senate-approved bill."

thehill.com/homenews/house/453007-pressley-democrats-need-any-more-black-voices-that-dont-want-to-be-a-black

Making lots of noise about the suffering children,,,then vote against aid for them.

So she's calling for racial purity then?

Your skin colour dictates your permitted opinion, politics or voice? and she has the gall to call trump a racist!

But then the identity politics fascists are exactly that, racists!

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They can all be racists you know. Being a racist doesn't necessarily disbar your opponent from being one. Look at British politics right now.

[Repat Van]

Jul 17, 2019 14:27:48 GMT reverend said:

Jul 17, 2019 12:34:21 GMT rick49 said:

Pressley: Democrats don't need any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice



"Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-Mass.) reportedly said Democrats don't need "any more black faces that don't want to be a black voice" during a liberal Netroots Nation conference on Saturday, a comment that comes as racial politics threaten to divide the party."

“This is the time to shake that table. ... We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice,” Pressley reportedly said during the event. “We don’t need any more black faces that don’t want to be a black voice.”

"Pressley and fellow freshman Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), Rashida Tlaib (D-Mich.) and Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.) clashed with Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) after the four progressives did not vote for a border aid package last month when Pelosi put forward a Senate-approved bill."

thehill.com/homenews/house/453007-pressley-democrats-need-any-more-black-voices-that-dont-want-to-be-a-black

Making lots of noise about the suffering children,,,then vote against aid for them.

So she's calling for racial purity then?

Your skin colour dictates your permitted opinion, politics or voice? and she has the gall to call trump a racist!

But then the identity politics fascists are exactly that, racists!

Yes because what she said is exactly the same as revoking somebody’s citizenship (figuratively speaking) because of their skin colour.

You will do anything to defend your klan mate in the White House.

[voice]

The irony is of cause is the one playing identity politics is Trump, 'they don't look like me so they can't be from here, go home'

[Repat Van]

Jul 17, 2019 13:59:04 GMT mids said:

Remain is just a fancy way of saying "fear and resentment".

Illogical given they are more pro giving entry to foreigners.

[Repat Van]

Jul 17, 2019 14:21:58 GMT flatandy said:

Yeah. "Populism" used to be a euphemism for lying about economic policy, claiming you can both slash taxes and increase spending. It was lowest common denominator bullshit economic politics. The idea was that thick people bought it and voted on it.

Now it's shifted to basically meaning "racism and incredibly heavy-handed law and order stuff". Still pitching to the thick and lowest common denominator, but it's moved from lying about economic policy to basically just beating up people who don't look like the majority.

And that was the other euphemism he was talking about “racially charged” as a replacement for “racist”...

[mids]

Jul 17, 2019 15:50:29 GMT Repat Van said:

Jul 17, 2019 13:59:04 GMT mids said:

Remain is just a fancy way of saying "fear and resentment".

Illogical given they are more pro giving entry to foreigners.

Illogical argument but, link?

[Deleted]

Common knowledge. No need for a link. Don't go all Balooey on us ffs.

[mids]

Common bollocks, you mean. Link?

[Deleted]

Er, d'you understand what 'union' means? I'll give you a clue - it doesn't mean isolation or wanting to be alone.

[reverend]

Jul 17, 2019 15:49:15 GMT Repat Van said:

Jul 17, 2019 14:27:48 GMT reverend said:

So she's calling for racial purity then?

Your skin colour dictates your permitted opinion, politics or voice? and she has the gall to call trump a racist!

But then the identity politics fascists are exactly that, racists!

Yes because what she said is exactly the same as revoking somebody’s citizenship (figuratively speaking) because of their skin colour.

You will do anything to defend your klan mate in the White House.

Who exactly is having their citizenship revoked because of the colour of their skin, figuratively or not?

This woman however is specifically stating the colour of your skin allows ONE point of view, ONE political stance, otherwise your not welcome, your skin colour dictates your permitted opinion, and if you don't comply your persona non grata, I mean what the Fook!

Where is the individual, what about the black conservatives, the Hispanic conservative what about the Asian conservatives, they don't count do they?

this woman is a fascist radical, one view for one colour and they get to decide the opinion for you, total leftist ideology!

And fook off with the ad hominem crap you have zero evidence of me being any kind of racist, being not white does not make you exempt from criticism, unless your the racist!

[perrykneeham]

Jul 17, 2019 16:23:21 GMT @oneofthelessergods said:

Er, d'you understand what 'union' means? I'll give you a clue - it doesn't mean isolation or wanting to be alone.

We want to be in unions with other countries, not our sisters and kids. Pervert.

[perrykneeham]

Jul 17, 2019 15:50:29 GMT Repat Van said:

Jul 17, 2019 13:59:04 GMT mids said:

Remain is just a fancy way of saying "fear and resentment".

Illogical given they are more pro giving entry to foreigners.

We are talking about the same EU that contains Italy, Greece, France, Spain, Sweden, Germany etc., yeah?

[flatandy]

Jul 17, 2019 15:51:20 GMT Repat Van said:

And that was the other euphemism he was talking about “racially charged” as a replacement for “racist”...

Yep. There was a lot of that around with Trump's "Racially charged tweets" or "tweets that used a common racist trope" or "tweets that could have been interpreted as similar to other racially motivated comments"...

[flatandy]

Jul 17, 2019 16:36:51 GMT reverend said:

Who exactly is having their citizenship revoked because of the colour of their skin, figuratively or not?

That's pretty much what "go back to where you came from" means.

"If you don't like it here go back to where you came from" is explicitly telling people that they really don't qualify to participate in the democratic process and shouldn't work to change the country. They should be grateful for what the country is right now, and shut up. That's what it's saying. It's saying: Don't criticise; don't run for office; don't get elected; don't try and change things. It is, basically, saying that your rights as a citizen are redundant.

[reverend]

Jul 17, 2019 18:06:42 GMT flatandy said:

Jul 17, 2019 16:36:51 GMT reverend said:

Who exactly is having their citizenship revoked because of the colour of their skin, figuratively or not?

That's pretty much what "go back to where you came from" means.

"If you don't like it here go back to where you came from" is explicitly telling people that they really don't qualify to participate in the democratic process and shouldn't work to change the country. They should be grateful for what the country is right now, and shut up. That's what it's saying. It's saying: Don't criticise; don't run for office; don't get elected; don't try and change things. It is, basically, saying that your rights as a citizen are redundant.

At no point is anyone's race mentioned, it's criticism, (and obtuse criticism) of their politics, go back try and fix that THEN COME BACK, and tell us how to do it is what is written, how you interpret that is a function of your bias!

if we are playing the interpretation game then I interpret that as go take a look what your family left to make a better life here, come back and realise how good it is here then quit trashing America!

Now address the identity politics racism spouted by the race card players who think being non white makes them immune from criticism even in their own party!

[flatandy]

Jul 17, 2019 18:19:17 GMT reverend said:

Jul 17, 2019 18:06:42 GMT flatandy said:

That's pretty much what "go back to where you came from" means.

"If you don't like it here go back to where you came from" is explicitly telling people that they really don't qualify to participate in the democratic process and shouldn't work to change the country. They should be grateful for what the country is right now, and shut up. That's what it's saying. It's saying: Don't criticise; don't run for office; don't get elected; don't try and change things. It is, basically, saying that your rights as a citizen are redundant.

At no point is anyone's race mentioned, it's criticism, (and obtuse criticism) of their politics, go back try and fix that THEN COME BACK, and tell us how to do it is what is written, how you interpret that is a function of your bias!

if we are playing the interpretation game then I interpret that as go take a look what your family left to make a better life here, come back and realise how good it is here then quit trashing America!

Now address the identity politics racism spouted by the race card players who think being non white makes them immune from criticism even in their own party!

So, because you don't mention race, it's not racist? Holy crap.

Also, where are they meant to go back to? Three of them were born in the US and the other is a US citizen and has been since she was 10.

And yes, you do think it's "quit trashing America". You think it's "Don't criticise the country you're now in". Which is the same as saying that you don't have the right to criticise, that by being of immigrant stock you should not ever be involved in civic society, in democracy. Donald Trump was allowed to criticise the US in 2015 when running for election, but AOC isn't allowed to criticise the US now? If that's not racist, it's very close.

[unclejunior]

Jul 17, 2019 14:21:58 GMT flatandy said:

Yeah. "Progressive “ used to be a euphemism for lying about economic policy, claiming you can both slash taxes and increase spending. It was lowest common denominator bullshit economic politics. The idea was that thick people bought it and voted on it.

Now it's shifted to basically meaning "racism and incredibly heavy-handed law and order stuff". Still pitching to the thick and lowest common denominator, but it's moved from lying about economic policy to basically just beating up people who don't look like the majority.

There you go .....I fixed it for you.

[Repat Van]

Jul 17, 2019 16:36:51 GMT reverend said:

Jul 17, 2019 15:49:15 GMT Repat Van said:

Yes because what she said is exactly the same as revoking somebody’s citizenship (figuratively speaking) because of their skin colour.

You will do anything to defend your klan mate in the White House.

Who exactly is having their citizenship revoked because of the colour of their skin, figuratively or not?

This woman however is specifically stating the colour of your skin allows ONE point of view, ONE political stance, otherwise your not welcome, your skin colour dictates your permitted opinion, and if you don't comply your persona non grata, I mean what the Fook!

Where is the individual, what about the black conservatives, the Hispanic conservative what about the Asian conservatives, they don't count do they?

this woman is a fascist radical, one view for one colour and they get to decide the opinion for you, total leftist ideology!

And fook off with the ad hominem crap you have zero evidence of me being any kind of racist, being not white does not make you exempt from criticism, unless your the racist!

Sigh.

The 4 non white women he told to go back to their countries.

It’s not that hard. They’re Americans. Their countries are America.

He didn’t yell them to move overseas he told them to go back to “their countries”.

That is a figurative revocation if citizenship. You do know what “figurative” means right? It’s also not crap. You really are caping hard with your whataboutery for your klan man in the White House. Through the whataboutery and playing dumb, wondering what exactly is wrong with telling non whites to essentially f**k off back to where they did not come from?