WOKE up this morning ....

[perrykneeham]

Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? Eh? Eh?

[flatandy]

I think my claim that the US won in Vietnam holds up better.

[rick49]

bezmenov was/is as prophetic as orwell was. alexander solzhenitsyn (remember him?) warned us too. and we denied him and laughed at him. i can understand andy dismissing it because it's what he and the left want. wokeism isn't an accident. it's designed to stifle free speech and force people to shut up and obey. the invasion on our southern border, the wokerisation of the military, our failing education system (woke math, woke science, etc.) chaos in the streets. it's all designed to cause societal collapse. the list is endless.

[rick49]

Sept 25, 2023 16:45:18 GMT perrykneeham said:

Well, he would say that, wouldn't he? Eh? Eh?

why would he make it all up?

[perrykneeham]

Because he's a crank? It happens.

[voice]

People make sh!t up all the time, and really if you didn't constantly fabricate stuff you'd never have anything to post, so you should know all there is to know about making stuff up

[mids]

You're right. I don't think anything the left say is true.

[Psalms]

Sept 25, 2023 20:14:59 GMT mids said:

You're right. I don't think anything the left say is true.

You speaking Ebonics now? ..anything the left say is true

[flatandy]

I clicked on the link. It's absolutely f**k**g bonkers.

Some soviet defector in 1984 said that the way to turn the US soviet was by making all academia into Soviet thinkers, and this will lead to Soviet thinking coming into the youth and then the Soviet thinking kids will run the country.

It's standard Stalinist/Brezhnevist thinking.

The author has then decided that Everything I Don't Like Is Woke. And Everything I Don't Like That's Woke Is Leading To The Collapse Of The Kind Of Civilisation I Like. And that this must mean that because things I don't like are now part of the discourse that everything is doomed and this means that the Soviets Have Won.

It's absolutely f**k**g nuts, totally undisprovable because it's so subjective, and anyone can claim it's true about anything.

For instance

The people in favour of the end of the rule of law, of giving guns to everyone for violent rebellion, of revolution and overthrow of government, of a nationalist autocracy, have control of the supreme court and the House and most of the state legislatures. Therefore the Soviets have won!

[rick49]

Anyone can be a hate criminal now (including the woke)

"Paul Coleman on how hate-speech laws are used to criminalise mainstream opinion."

"For most people, the word ‘hate speech’ probably conjures up images of skinheads shouting racist abuse, or of far-right extremists calling for mass deportations of migrants. In reality, what ends up being criminalised as ‘hate speech’ tends to be far more benign. In many instances, views that were mainstream only a few years ago have been deemed ‘hateful’ by the authorities. Even posting a Bible verse online or saying that ‘men can’t be lesbians’ can now land you in trouble with the police. The subjective nature of ‘hate’, and its ever-broadening definition, means that no one can be sure if their views are on the right side of the law."

"Bizarrely, Räsänen was tried under a law in the Finnish criminal code that falls under the sanction of ‘war crimes and crimes against humanity’. It carries a maximum two-year prison sentence. In this case, however, the prosecutor was pursuing both crippling fines and a recantation from Räsänen regarding her beliefs."
www.spiked-online.com/2023/09/27/anyone-can-be-a-hate-criminal-now/

so saying the wrong word can be considered a war crime? and the definition changes daily and expands. one word can destroy someone. safest thing is remain silent and say nothing because someone somewhere is listening and/or watching.

[rick49]

if you are applying for college in the usa and are straight, admissions counselors consider them second class citizens.

Do You Go by Xe/Xem? Colleges Want You.

"A report confirms that admission counselors favor students with preferred pronouns in their signature."
spectator.org/do-you-go-by-xe-xem-colleges-want-you/

[rick49]

all federal funding of public colleges that promote wokeness in any form should come to a screeching stop. dry the money flow up.

[flatandy]

You think evolution and climate science and electrical engineering for solar panels and batteries are woke. You probably think any history involving non-white people is woke.

[rick49]

you will never get it. people like you will be the first to go once the dictatorship takes full control. just like hitler eliminated the brownshirts.

[happyhammerhead]

Oops, Godwin's Law alert

[flatandy]

So, you want to dictate what can and can’t be taught using whatever ridiculous vague definition of “woke” you’re choosing today, and it’s the rest of us sleepwalking into a controlling autocracy?

Can you tell me if batteries are woke or not?

[rick49]

it's you who are ok with colleges applying wokeness litmus tests on prospective students.

[rick49]

turn off the money tap to the so-called institutions of higher learning. only the stop of the money flow will get through to them. money talks.

[flatandy]

Can you tell me if physics is woke?

[voice]