So, should she be let back in?

[flatandy]

Does the UK need to recognise her new state? If she renounced UK citizenship and claimed Transnistrian or Northern Cypriot citizenship would we be required to give her a passport back?

[voice]

If she's still a citizen it's hard to stop her returning, slippery slope having different levels of citizenship imo, though the gov should in no way lift a finger to help her get home, and if she did make it back then arrest her and charge her with any crimes she's committed.

[perrykneeham]

I'm guessing that someone must recognise the state, otherwise it's a redundant exercise claiming citizenship of it. Stripping them of their existing citizenship was probably an equally empty gesture.

[flatandy]

It's not stripping - the UK shouldn't unilaterally strip citizenship from people born in the country. The question is whether she renounced it, in which case keeping her out should be fair game, same as if she chose to become a citizen of North Korea or Canada.

[moggyonspeed]

No.

She has shown complete contempt for the Law of this land and, to make matters worse, she has chosen to join forces with the closest thing to Chaos we've seen in modern times. How many times is it argued that bad Laws need to be bent, if not out-and-out resisted? In this context our country should be allowed to ignore, perhaps break, its own Law with regard to this witch and her cancerous hatred. She should surely forfeit the right of protection under any Law for which she has shown such demonstrable disdain.

Forget all that bullshit she spouts about "wanting the best for her baby". Those severed heads she walked by, those people summarily killed for having the audacity to fight against ISIS - they were all someone's baby once. Truth is, she and her ilk think they're something special, but they're not - they're irrational killers, all of them, and nothing more.

No - keep her where she is for as long as it takes for someone there to send her to paradise. Enough - we need to end this debate soon.

[voice]

While I applaud those sentiments, she sounds like a wrong un no doubt, but we let the likes of John Amery and his band of traitors back in, sure we sent him to trail under the rule of law, not sure how we can;t do the same to her, after all she hasn't raised arms against the state such as Amery did.

Granted should she never make it back under her own steam I'd not care, but for all our citizenship rights to be sacrosanct we have to extend those even to scum such as her. Plus when ever we have a flexible approach to the rule of law, it makes it harder for us to preach at those who disregard it.

[moggyonspeed]

Yes. Letting proven killers back in is wrong, unrepentant ones even more so; I say it now and I said it back then. The issue of her not having raised arms against us is, at best arguable, at worst irrelevant. The substantive issue here is that she seeks refuge and protection under a Legal system that she a) holds inferior to Islamic Law, and b) holds in utter contempt anyway. Where is the practicality in dealing with a person (?!) like that.

Her unrepentant stance leaves me fearful of people like her committing atrocities back in this country, at our expense to boot. If that were to happen, the Extreme Right would have a field day to the point of its being a threat to order on the streets. No, I make no apology for the cancer simile - prevention is better than cure when it comes to our treatment of this woman. Keep her where she is.

[jimboky]

when you join a force fighting with your home country ain't you renouncing your citizenship, or commenting treason?

[voice]

if she's formally given up her citizenship then sure, let her rot, if not, she still gets those rights no matter what she does, we never strip citizenship from even the most heinous crims we've put away, after all once you go down the road of having second class citizenship dependent on what you believe its a very slippery slope.

As for is she's a traitor, that's for the courts to decide, in a fair and open trial under the rule of law, and if found guilty she should never see the light of day again, I have no issue with banging this stupid bint up for what ever crimes she may have committed, plus taking her child are bringing them up as an atheist. Showing we are better than them is as much a part of this as anything (not her personally, she might be a lost cause) being equal before the law, no matter what you are accused off or what you believe, is a thing worth trumpeting imo.

[mids]

Of course what will happen is that she'll be allowed back in (ECJ) and for her protection, have her identity changed and set up in a new life, possibly with members of her family. She/her family will complain endlessly and end up living in a house that many couldn't afford.

[voice]

well that depends on the government, though given how piss poor the present one is you could well be on the money. Another reason we need a change, though who to is the issue, Corbyn would be a disaster and the Tories have no one is any better. The whole place is fcuked.

[perrykneeham]

Best just liquidate the lot of 'em. Bad seed.

[perrykneeham]

It'll be interesting to see what the cloggies do about her husband who was a white convert.

[perrykneeham]

Still, aren't we anticipating the last stand of IS to be over this week?

[voice]

oh yeah its all about to end, not that IS is toast, no doubt a number of fucktards will be driving vans at people of being a bit stabby, but as a force they are spent.

[mids]

Yep, defeated by Donald Trump.

[voice]

your jokes used to be much much funnier

[perrykneeham]

I expect they'll stage manage a "spectacular" in time for Friday prayers.

A couple of those nice MOAB jobs should do the trick, but the Yanks will probably want local forces to get the kudos.

[Deleted]

They interviewed some of her (Muslim) neighbours in Bethnal Green (Bethnal Green! Fuck me, that was real London a few years ago. Now it's more like Islamabad) and all of them were against her returning. It would appear that British Muslims feel much the same as most British non-Muslims. Good on them.

How do I feel? On reflection I'd say let her return and put her on trial. It's too easy to get caught up with mob passion. Do it by the rule book. And yes, time for a big clear-out in British politics. Most of them are self-serving scum.

[Gort]

She is an unrepentant subhuman piece of Islamist shiit.. And this sucker of Islamo cock has the fuking arrogance to demand that she be brought back to the UK so that her and her future Jihadist offspring can be brought up and housed at the taxpayers expense is another slap in the dish. I would hang her. Anyone who has sympathy for that fuking animal is a prize fukwit fool. I will say again,, she is unrepentant and does not regret joining the islamic state and to me that mind set means she should be removed from civilized society.