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Post by voice on Feb 20, 2019 18:26:16 GMT
and how far back, some countries allow you to claim citizenship if a grandparent was born there, so now you run the risk of having your UK citizenship revoked if the gov takes a dislike to you and they find out dear old granny was born outside the UK. Very slippery slope this is.
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 20, 2019 18:27:08 GMT
Again, would I be "minding my own business" if I had travelled overseas to a war zone and pledged allegiance to a lower seeking the destruction of my former country?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:30:15 GMT
Sajid Javid might think twice on this, being the son of Pakistani parents.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:33:58 GMT
Again, would I be "minding my own business" if I had travelled overseas to a war zone and pledged allegiance to a lower seeking the destruction of my former country? I'm not defending her. Until it's known whether she has dual nationality or not, her citizenship cannot be legally revoked. |
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Post by mids on Feb 20, 2019 18:42:14 GMT
It's odd, isn't it? For all that the left go on about fascism, when they're confronted with an actual proper real life fascist, they go all doe-eyed and sympathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2019 18:44:25 GMT
You're a man for Law and Order - what's the problem?
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Post by voice on Feb 20, 2019 18:49:38 GMT
having a right to citizenship in some other country does not mean you actually have it, it needs to be applied for and approved, if she or her parents did this for her and she is a confirmed Bangladesh citizen they she won't be starless so, while its still a slippery slope, it might just squeak in as legal, where as making her stateless is clearly illegal.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 20, 2019 18:55:05 GMT
I don't see anything in that piece where she renounces her Britishness. |
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Post by voice on Feb 20, 2019 18:56:44 GMT
And as Bangladesh have said she is not or ever has been a citizen of that country, she is a UK citizen
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Post by flatandy on Feb 20, 2019 18:59:23 GMT
The fact that she's been left stateless is vile, of course, but apparently it's now legal under British law. Javid appears to be on OK legal ground to do what he's doing. It's just vile, wrong, and there's no proper process involved. The Bangladesh thing is a red herring.
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Post by voice on Feb 20, 2019 19:06:10 GMT
So, we are no longer a true democracy where the rule of law is paramount and applied equally.
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 20, 2019 19:07:04 GMT
I don't see anything in that piece where she renounces her Britishness. You didn't ask for that. It's implied, of course. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 20, 2019 19:07:40 GMT
And as Bangladesh have said she is not or ever has been a citizen of that country, she is a UK citizen You're behind the curve here. |
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Post by voice on Feb 20, 2019 19:11:22 GMT
well if anyone would recognize that it would be you I suppose.
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 20, 2019 19:18:36 GMT
Zing!
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Post by flatandy on Feb 20, 2019 19:40:31 GMT
I don't see anything in that piece where she renounces her Britishness. You didn't ask for that. It's implied, of course. You said she'd renounced it. I asked for a link. You provided none. It's pertinent, in part, because she literally in completely unable to renounce her nationality until she is 18 years old. The UK government - in the earlier link - explicitly refuses to accept anyone under 18 as being of sound mind to renounce their Britishness. So, even if we take your utterly tenuous dogshit explanation that she renounced her citizenship and the Home Secretary is just confirming it, she was actually unable to do so. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 20, 2019 19:53:33 GMT
Nonsense. You're relying on Home Office paperwork now. So, you accept that, insofar as her own actions are concerned, she has renounced her UK citizenship?
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Post by flatandy on Feb 20, 2019 20:03:50 GMT
No, I don't. I see nothing where she renounced it, nor anything in your link which said she had to renounce it.
But, as it happens, Home Office Paperwork is the correct standard for whether she would have lost citizenship, and she doesn't hit that standard by any number of measures. She should be treated like any other citizen.
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 20, 2019 20:29:31 GMT
Of course she's renounced it . Don't be silly.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 20, 2019 20:38:32 GMT
Except that she hasn't
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