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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:26:14 GMT
"Yonder Travel Insurance in the US has published an update, showing that Ecuador is the latest country to mandate proof of travel insurance as an element of visa requirements. It is a trend that seems set to continue, as countries seek new ways to relieve themselves of the financial burden of medical bills left unpaid by tourists, whether that is travellers taking advantage of free healthcare or simply making a swift exit without paying their bills. Other countries that require compulsory travel insurance include Austria, Belgium, Cuba, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Lithuania, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Qatar, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey (though this list is by no means exhaustive)." Something else that Little Miss Thicky doesn't have a clue about. Are those for tourists or resident visas oh stupid one...(I’ll give you a clue, on two tourist trips to Qatar at no point was I asked about medical insurance, ditto Moscow etc....) |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:26:24 GMT
So, they haven't lost any money?
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jul 11, 2019 10:27:57 GMT
In your case but it is far from common. They say they cannot afford it because the massive pension contributions from their employer are generating them a tax bill. If you earn £200k as a Dr the NHS are putting in the equivalent of £40k to your pension. That generates a tax bill. If they got the average 2% it would be £4k going in and no tax bill. For reasons best known to themselves they feel they should have the money and not pay tax on it. This is you making it up again? All this has said is they are cutting back shifts as they cannot afford to work the extra shifts. read the bloody article. it's all there:
Waiting lists for routine surgery have risen by up to 50% in England because senior doctors say they cannot afford to work extra shifts.
Consultants have begun refusing to work beyond their planned hours after receiving unexpected tax bills, following new pension rules in 2016.
NHS hospitals said delays are becoming increasingly routine as a result.
The Department of Health said it aimed to solve the problem with more flexible pensions.
Consultants who earn more than £110,000 a year faced new limits on how much they could contribute to their pension from 2016. Complex rules mean the charges can be unpredictable if they go over the allowance.
But those near the threshold have few options to avoid the impact, other than reducing their hours, quitting the NHS pension scheme or taking early retirement. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:28:11 GMT
"Yonder Travel Insurance in the US has published an update, showing that Ecuador is the latest country to mandate proof of travel insurance as an element of visa requirements. It is a trend that seems set to continue, as countries seek new ways to relieve themselves of the financial burden of medical bills left unpaid by tourists, whether that is travellers taking advantage of free healthcare or simply making a swift exit without paying their bills. Other countries that require compulsory travel insurance include Austria, Belgium, Cuba, Denmark, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Lithuania, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Qatar, Russia, Sweden, Switzerland and Turkey (though this list is by no means exhaustive)." Something else that Little Miss Thicky doesn't have a clue about. Are those for tourists or resident visas oh stupid one...(I’ll give you a clue, on two tourist trips to Qatar at no point was I asked about medical insurance, ditto Moscow etc....) Again, it doesn't matter. You said that it can't be done and that no-one does it. Wrong on both counts. QED. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:28:42 GMT
You have a rather naive faith in the ability of the UK to be able to seamlessly electronically integrate into the online platforms of all the insurance providers globally and assess a travellers insurance details and whether they have an adequate level of cover. “Naive” or “stupid” I cannot tell which but for obvious reasons it would never happen. Probably why no other country does it! All made up. Airlines can check visas electronically so checking valid insurance cover should be a piece of piss. Why would the government or the airlines need to assess cover? They'd just need to set a standard and get the insurance companies to go through accreditation, like any other contractor. You don't actually have a defence, do you? You really think an airline personnel will be able to easily check health insurance and its validity? Don’t be silly. How long do you want the queues at the airport to be while they spend hours determining whether cover is correct, whether or covers the right activities planned, that the amounts of cover are correct.. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:30:35 GMT
This is you making it up again? All this has said is they are cutting back shifts as they cannot afford to work the extra shifts. read the bloody article. it's all there:
Waiting lists for routine surgery have risen by up to 50% in England because senior doctors say they cannot afford to work extra shifts.
Consultants have begun refusing to work beyond their planned hours after receiving unexpected tax bills, following new pension rules in 2016.
NHS hospitals said delays are becoming increasingly routine as a result.
The Department of Health said it aimed to solve the problem with more flexible pensions.
Consultants who earn more than £110,000 a year faced new limits on how much they could contribute to their pension from 2016. Complex rules mean the charges can be unpredictable if they go over the allowance.
But those near the threshold have few options to avoid the impact, other than reducing their hours, quitting the NHS pension scheme or taking early retirement.But where did they say the tax rules should not apply to them? Senior medical staff said they can no longer afford to work extra shifts. And then posters here threw a tantrum over a sensible decision. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:31:37 GMT
All made up. Airlines can check visas electronically so checking valid insurance cover should be a piece of piss. Why would the government or the airlines need to assess cover? They'd just need to set a standard and get the insurance companies to go through accreditation, like any other contractor. You don't actually have a defence, do you? You really think an airline personnel will be able to easily check health insurance and its validity? Don’t be silly. How long do you want the queues at the airport to be while they spend hours determining whether cover is correct, whether or covers the right activities planned, that the amounts of cover are correct.. I don't care who does it. Just that it can be done and that it is done. They can check visas too. Airlines might actually jump at the chance to flog you some insurance. Again, real life examples. You've not got a clue. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:33:31 GMT
Are those for tourists or resident visas oh stupid one...(I’ll give you a clue, on two tourist trips to Qatar at no point was I asked about medical insurance, ditto Moscow etc....) Again, it doesn't matter. You said that it can't be done and that no-one does it. Wrong on both counts. QED. Nobody does do it though. Don’t try this Baloo black hole of nonsense. The issue is clearly visitors. Not those who have travelled on a resident visa. Those people would be covered by the NHS anyway so it’s a moot point as well you know. Of course it can be done for those who go on work/ resident visas because the whole visa process is far more involved than turning up to the U.K. for a 1 week holiday. Unless your argument is that the U.K. should adopt the exact same visa process for those looking to migrate as for those coming to London for 2 weeks. Which is a daft idea, would cut tourism down to a trickle but is certainly feasible. Although more honest to say the U.K. should just ban foreigners. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:34:48 GMT
If I've earned a marginal £ 100K and I chuck £ 40K in a pension, I am still £60k to the good, yeah? If I get charged £12K tax on that, I still have £48K in cash and the £40K in my pension pot. How is having £88K losing money?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:35:38 GMT
Again, it doesn't matter. You said that it can't be done and that no-one does it. Wrong on both counts. QED. Nobody does do it though. Don’t try this Baloo black hole of nonsense. The issue is clearly visitors. Not those who have travelled on a resident visa. Those people would be covered by the NHS anyway so it’s a moot point as well you know. Of course it can be done for those who go on work/ resident visas because the whole visa process is far more involved than turning up to the U.K. for a 1 week holiday/ What do you mean "nobody does it"? I've just posted a list of countries that do it. |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:35:54 GMT
If I've earned a marginal £ 100K and I chuck £ 40K in a pension, I am still £60k to the good, yeah? If I get charged £12K tax on that, I still have £48K in cash and the £40K in my pension pot. How is having £88K losing money? You have to ask the people who said that they cannot afford to work extra shifts. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:36:33 GMT
So, you've grasped it now, yeah?
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:38:45 GMT
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:39:43 GMT
So, you've grasped it now, yeah? Yes you want the U.K. to abandon having tourists and have all visitors apply for resident visas....in which case they would not need travel insurance anyway. You’re a bona fide moron! |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:41:53 GMT
You are all over the place. So you don’t want medical insurance confirmed for all passengers. Only those who already have extensive visitor visa requirements? Anybody else (including non resident Britons) are free to run up large NHS bills and skip the country? |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:42:41 GMT
So, you've grasped it now, yeah? Yes you want the U.K. to abandon having tourists and have all visitors apply for resident visas....in which case they would not need travel insurance anyway. You’re a bona fide moron! Nope. Now you're just making stuff up. |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 10:45:27 GMT
You are all over the place. So you don’t want medical insurance confirmed for all passengers. Only those who already have extensive visitor visa requirements? Anybody else (including non resident Britons) are free to run up large NHS bills and skip the country? Again, just making stuff up. It can be done and it is done. There are already shedloads of countries that we require visas and the airlines have no problems checking those. You really don't have any idea about how things work, do you? |
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Post by Repat Van on Jul 11, 2019 10:47:17 GMT
You are all over the place. So you don’t want medical insurance confirmed for all passengers. Only those who already have extensive visitor visa requirements? Anybody else (including non resident Britons) are free to run up large NHS bills and skip the country? Again, just making stuff up. It can be done and it is done. There are already shedloads of countries that we require visas and the airlines have no problems checking those. You really don't have any idea about how things work, do you? Well that’s what I said earlier. You want to abandon the current process and replace it with everybody (including non resident Britons) having to go through an extensive visa application process. That’s rather different from your earlier comment. “Should have got health insurance, shouldn't you? What's more, they shouldn't be allowed to clear customs without it.” Nobody has a situation where they just check for travel insurance as you clear customs. It’s part of an extensive visa approval / visa conditions process. It’s not my fault you like dancing with goalposts. |
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jul 11, 2019 12:28:34 GMT
read the bloody article. it's all there:
Waiting lists for routine surgery have risen by up to 50% in England because senior doctors say they cannot afford to work extra shifts.
Consultants have begun refusing to work beyond their planned hours after receiving unexpected tax bills, following new pension rules in 2016.
NHS hospitals said delays are becoming increasingly routine as a result.
The Department of Health said it aimed to solve the problem with more flexible pensions.
Consultants who earn more than £110,000 a year faced new limits on how much they could contribute to their pension from 2016. Complex rules mean the charges can be unpredictable if they go over the allowance.
But those near the threshold have few options to avoid the impact, other than reducing their hours, quitting the NHS pension scheme or taking early retirement.But where did they say the tax rules should not apply to them? Senior medical staff said they can no longer afford to work extra shifts. And then posters here threw a tantrum over a sensible decision. "No doctor wants to do anything but their best for their patients but if, in doing so, they face bills of tens of thousands of pounds, something has to change." baring in mind the dispute is about tax bills and they already have the option of not taking the pension ,they can elect for the pension to pay the tax or pay it themselves, what is it you think they want to change? The air conditioning? |
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Post by perrykneeham on Jul 11, 2019 13:24:57 GMT
Again, just making stuff up. It can be done and it is done. There are already shedloads of countries that we require visas and the airlines have no problems checking those. You really don't have any idea about how things work, do you? Well that’s what I said earlier. You want to abandon the current process and replace it with everybody (including non resident Britons) having to go through an extensive visa application process. That’s rather different from your earlier comment. “Should have got health insurance, shouldn't you? What's more, they shouldn't be allowed to clear customs without it.” Nobody has a situation where they just check for travel insurance as you clear customs. It’s part of an extensive visa approval / visa conditions process. It’s not my fault you like dancing with goalposts. Who's moving goalposts? I didn't say the check had to be carried out there. That's your invention. An invention that fails to cover your latest humiliating drubbing. |
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