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Post by voice on May 12, 2021 15:22:18 GMT
Oh her policies are odious, she's a very conservative conservative and has few redeeming qualities as a politician, but she's put truth before the big lie and wasn't afraid to put her career on the line in order to tell the truth about what happened. She was told if only she'd keep quiet she could keep her job. So few in the GOP have a backbone any more so it's remarkable one such as Liz C putting truth before her own self interest. It's rather dambing on the rest
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Post by voice on May 12, 2021 15:26:45 GMT
And really for a two party system to work you need the other side to believe in democracy, the ones opposing Trump on the right while largely horrible people tend to still believe is some limited democracy, the cult that the rump GOP has morphed into clearly has no truck with democracy at all any more.
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Post by ootlg on May 12, 2021 15:51:27 GMT
Oh her policies are odious, she's a very conservative conservative and has few redeeming qualities as a politician, but she's put truth before the big lie and wasn't afraid to put her career on the line in order to tell the truth about what happened. She was told if only she'd keep quiet she could keep her job. So few in the GOP have a backbone any more so it's remarkable one such as Liz C putting truth before her own self interest. It's rather dambing on the rest Good move for the future though, because despite the current refusal by the rest of the GOP to see what's staring them in the eye, that Trump really is bonkers, there's bound to be an eventual leadership contest. She'll come out as The One Who Dared Speak The Truth.
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Post by Marshall on May 13, 2021 0:47:42 GMT
It is weird how genuinely grim hard-core right wing loons suddenly get treated as saviours of moderate America just because they oppose Donald Trump. It’s happened with lots of extremist Republicans who just happen to be more religious, small government, anti-regulation, and pro-war extremism rather than cult-of-personality extremism. That's entirely the wrong take. She's may be as conservative as they come but she's sticking to her principles. I'd rather have people like her than a McCarthy or Graham type who have absolutely none. The House GOP’s 212 members met behind closed doors and conducted a voice vote, despite calls by Cheney backers such as Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., that they make the vote public.
f**k**g cowards.
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Post by flatandy on May 13, 2021 1:40:11 GMT
I'd rather Cheney than Lindsay Graham (or Donald Trump), of course. At least you'd have some form of rule of law.
But she is being presented as something like a moderate now - like Ben Sasse or Jeff Flake were - despite being absolutely nothing of the sort.
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Post by voice on May 13, 2021 1:46:45 GMT
Is she really though, almost every report on her mentioned she backed the loosers agenda almost every vote and is a very conservative conservative, I've seen no mention she now a moderate, the way she's presented though is that despite being odiously far right in her policies, she at least stands up and tells the truth, knowing it will cost her to do so.
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Post by ootlg on May 13, 2021 8:15:23 GMT
It is weird how genuinely grim hard-core right wing loons suddenly get treated as saviours of moderate America just because they oppose Donald Trump. It’s happened with lots of extremist Republicans who just happen to be more religious, small government, anti-regulation, and pro-war extremism rather than cult-of-personality extremism. That's entirely the wrong take. She's may be as conservative as they come but she's sticking to her principles. I'd rather have people like her than a McCarthy or Graham type who have absolutely none. The House GOP’s 212 members met behind closed doors and conducted a voice vote, despite calls by Cheney backers such as Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., that they make the vote public.
f**k**g cowards. Depends what her principles are. This sounds to me more like she's sticking to your principles.
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Post by Marshall on May 13, 2021 18:41:15 GMT
My principle of accepting what's true instead of some conspiracy theory that happens to be personally convenient?
Guilty as charged.
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Post by ootlg on May 14, 2021 6:35:49 GMT
No idea. I don't know what your principles are or what's true. We're all in the same boat here. Ask voice, he's the conspiracy theory expert.
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Post by Marshall on May 14, 2021 18:26:26 GMT
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Post by voice on May 14, 2021 18:39:36 GMT
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Post by voice on May 18, 2021 18:24:51 GMT
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Post by voice on Jun 2, 2021 1:43:59 GMT
TRUMP HAS REPORTEDLY BEEN TELLING PEOPLE HE’S GOING TO BE PRESIDENT AGAIN BY AUGUST, WHICH WOULD SUGGEST HE’S PLANNING A COUP (OR HAS FULLY DESCENDED INTO MADNESS) Meanwhile, his craziest supporters believe he’s going to be president again soon, too. www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/donald-trump-august-reinstatementYou can only hope the ones tasked with stopping seditious attacks to overthrow the duly elected gov are both loyal and taking this seriously.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 2, 2021 6:31:03 GMT
And all this time we’ve been told Biden is the delusional one.
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Post by flatandy on Jun 2, 2021 10:41:31 GMT
He claims he’s going to be reinstated as President in August. I think the only way it can work is like this. One of Biden or Harris resigns or dies, then the other one nominates Trump as VP and he is confirmed by the Democrat majority House and the Democrat majority Senate. Then the other of Biden or Harris resigns or dies in August and Trump - by being VP - becomes President again.
It doesn’t feel particularly plausible.
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Post by voice on Jun 2, 2021 19:20:19 GMT
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Post by ootlg on Jun 3, 2021 6:22:59 GMT
He's still in tantrum mode. Needs locking up really.
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Post by voice on Jun 3, 2021 14:38:25 GMT
Apparently he was very disappointed hardly anyone was reading his blog, and once he found out his blog was getting minimal traffic and was being beaten by recipe sites and other fringe stuff he threw a massive hissy fit and told his team to kill it.
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Post by Marshall on Jun 4, 2021 6:34:47 GMT
Of course no one read it, his supporters are barely literate, just like the dumbfuck himself.
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Post by voice on Jun 24, 2021 4:15:04 GMT
Oh look, in the face of the perpetuating big lie that there was massive fraud and the election was somehow stolen, the Michigan GOP senate report debunks every insane claim. Though odly what the GOP take from that is, despite this being the freest and least fraudulent election, they then go on to say voting rights needs to be severely restricted (39 voter restrictions laws and counting just in Michigan) You can't make this up. www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/michigan-republicans-eviscerate-trump-voter-fraud-claims-scathing-report-n1272116Michigan Republicans eviscerate Trump voter fraud claims in scathing report The report blasts "lies" and "outright deception" that formed the basis of many claims of election malfeasance in the state.
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