US 2020 election

[happyhammerhead]

'rapid squirrel' must be the worst superhero animal ever.

All the the others will be like - "we're all pretty f**k**g fast too, dude"

[Marshall]

Yeah, I'd like rick to explain this military coup fantasy. I'm sure it's about as grounded in reality as 90% of the other bs he believes.

[voice]

yeah, looser boy was removed from power by the electorate, and was no insane by the end many were worried he's do something utterly stupid as a last dich reaction to the insurrection having failed to overthrow the election, luckily the grown ups were aware he was psychotic at this point and put steps in place to respond should he loose it entirely. They did the same when Nixon was heading out the door and drinking like a fish

[Marshall]

Trump makes a phone call to extort a foreign leader for personal gain. No problem.

Milley makes a phone call to prevent nuclear war. IT'S A MILITARY COUP!!!

[Repat Van]

Sept 16, 2021 16:17:17 GMT rick49 said:

Elder is absolutely batshit crazy. Black conservatives, the US ones seem to be able to make significant amounts of money from being batshit crazy. It’s odd.

whats odd is a white person, a newsom supporter, wearing a monkey mask and throwing things at a black man gets zero media attention and is praised by the left. well, actually, it's not odd at all.

Cool Whataboutery dude.

[Marshall]

Let's hear about this nefarious military coup, rick.

[Marshall]

Pretty light on the details for a coup.

So they hate him - Trump hates anyone who doesn't stroke his precious ego. Even people who were "the best" a day earlier. He even hates McConnell now.

[Marshall]

Another rare Republican with principles and a spine.

Rep. Anthony Gonzalez (R-OH) says he will not run for re-election in 2022 because of former President Donald Trump’s influence on the Republican Party.
Gonzalez was one of 10 Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, and the former president backed Gonzalez’s primary opponent, Max Miller, in retaliation. Trump and Gonzalez had ridden together on Air Force One, but Trump called the Ohio congressman a “sellout” and “fake Republican” at a rally in June.

“The current state of our politics, especially many of the toxic dynamics inside our own party, is a significant factor in my decision,” Gonzalez wrote on Twitter on Thursday. He lamented the “chaotic political environment that currently infects our country” but said his supporters gave him hope it would only be “will only be temporary.”

Gonzalez called Trump “a cancer for the country” and said, “I don’t believe he can ever be president again. Most of my political energy will be spent working on that exact goal.”
He called that Jan. 6 Capitol riot “a line-in-the-sand moment” that prompted his vote to impeach Trump.

Of course this only helps his GOP rival for the seat, who's a Trumper. Here's how the two compare:

Gonzalez:
The Ohio Republican was a rising star in the GOP before voting for Trump’s impeachment. He was a wide receiver for Ohio State who went on to be selected in the first round of the NFL draft. He later earned an MBA at Stanford and took his district’s congressional seat on his first try.


Miller:
Miller has a lengthy criminal record that includes disorderly conduct, assault, resisting arrest, and vandalism.

www.yahoo.com/news/gop-rep-anthony-gonzalez-m-013525260.html

[voice]

Sept 16, 2021 22:55:07 GMT rick49 said:

clinton operative found guilty of lying to fbi.

P"rosecutors in Durham's office say that Sussman falsely claimed to investigators at the time that he was not acting on behalf of any client when he had actually been representing Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign and an unnamed tech executive."

thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/572662-grand-jury-indicts-attorney-on-charge-of-lying-to-fbi-in-durham

Charged =/= guilty

[voice]

Sept 16, 2021 23:36:58 GMT rick49 said:

pelosi and millie say trump had gone insane. i don't see any phd's in psychaitry in their resumes. pelosi hates trump because he's not her. millie is a perfumed left wing politician who wears a generals uniform who hates trump.

Odd then that he was appointed to his job by looser boy, brings into question his judgment appointing someone like that...

[voice]

Saw a poll tonight, in Feb 70% of Republicans believed the election was not legit and Biden wasn't actually the potus.

It's now at 78%.

[Repat Van]

Sept 17, 2021 4:49:20 GMT voice said:

Saw a poll tonight, in Feb 70% of Republicans believed the election was not legit and Biden wasn't actually the potus.

It's now at 78%.

Holy sh*t...

[Marshall]

In the Republican Party’s long, gradual slide into authoritarianism, a few key moments stand out for revealing the stark transformation under way. One of them is the memo written by conservative lawyer John Eastman advocating, on President Trump’s behalf, a legal path for him to seize an unelected second term in office.

To be sure, while Eastman’s argument persuaded the president of the United States and several officials close to him, it failed to sway many other leading Republicans, including its most important target: the vice-president himself. Most Republicans tend to dismiss episodes like Eastman’s memo as idiosyncratic ravings ignored by the powers that be. And it is possible the waning days of Trump will eventually be seen as the high-water mark of authoritarian sentiment within the party. But the bulk of the evidence suggests instead that it is a way station to a much darker destination.

After briefly recoiling at Trump’s attempted autogolpe, his party has largely fallen behind him. Trump — confounding the complacent belief that he is too lazy and incompetent to wield authoritarian power — has diligently targeted officials with power over election results and replaced them with loyal functionaries. Trumpist candidates now stand poised to grasp ahold of the election machinery in Georgia, Arizona, and Michigan. Trump’s endorsements have usually proven decisive in Republican primaries. In Arizona, he praised his preferred secretary-of-State candidate’s “incredibly powerful stance on the massive Voter Fraud that took place in the 2020 Presidential Election Scam”; in Michigan, he praised his endorsee as “strong on Crime, including the massive Crime of Election Fraud.”

It may well be true that hyping up vote fraud discourages some Republican would-be voters from casting a ballot. But it encourages Republican legislators to enact the voter-suppression laws taking shape across the country. And it further encourages the party to challenge and undermine elections it loses. This rhetoric hurts our party’s efforts to gain power is an argument that works to an extent against failed bids to overturn an election but has little purchase against successful ones.

nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/09/the-horrifying-legal-blueprint-for-trumps-war-on-democracy.html

The GOP is the biggest threat to democracy that the US has seen since King George III.

[voice]

Did you see today, Trumps campaign to end US democracy is still ongoing, he's been attacking Abbot in Texas for not green lighting an audit of the election, he's moving the big lie onto spreading doubt even about the results in places he won. It's a clear strategy to sow the seeds of doubt in all elections, and if no electons cam be trusted why bother having them.

Authorization 101.

[Marshall]

He's a Grade A piece of sh*t.

If there are no ramifications for Jan 6th this will become a Republican SOP.

[voice]

We both know there will be no real consequences, it's bigger than just Trump, the entire GOP is no longer a party that believes it can get power through the ballot box in a free and fair election, so their only option is to end them.

I can't say this enough, there is a very real danger the US will cease to be a functioning democracy very soon given one of the two parties simply don't belive in democracy any more.

[Marshall]

It's definitely a possibility.
I'm no big fan of many Democrats, but anyone without their head up their arse can see which party is doing the most to hurt the US. It's not even remotely close.

[ootlg]

a) Are there no laws against sedition in the US? Or is Trump above the law?

b) What's happening with the investigation into his financial irregularities?

[mids]

Has Trump been rightfully restored to the presidency that was stolen from him yet?

[perrykneeham]

Sept 24, 2021 7:37:59 GMT ootlg said:

a) Are there no laws against sedition in the US? Or is Trump above the law?

b) What's happening with the investigation into his financial irregularities?

I expect that, despite the rhetoric, there is little appetite amongst politicians for prosecuting others politicians once they've left office. Self-interest. Fine, if you can knock 'em down in office, but once the political opportunity has passed .....