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Post by whiterum on Jan 26, 2021 9:08:38 GMT
I know you're not blaming me.
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Post by ootlg on Jan 26, 2021 11:24:43 GMT
Careful ming. You're wandering into a minefield of race and gender and race+gender. FA and van specialise in that particularly boggy field.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jan 26, 2021 12:05:26 GMT
They don't seem able to muster an argument between them. Seems short of handing out labels or acronyms they have nothing.
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Post by ootlg on Jan 26, 2021 12:18:11 GMT
Pigeonhole fanciers.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2021 12:47:40 GMT
If there were angel-supremacy and as many lady-angels and dude-angels were involved in maintaining it, then femangels would be just as complicit in maintaining angel-supremacy.
If there are female and male cats in your house and you don’t have a litter tray, and therefore they pee everywhere, female cats are just as responsible as male cats for your house stinking of cat-pee.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jan 26, 2021 12:51:32 GMT
So the ethnic grouping of angels is to blame?
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2021 12:59:52 GMT
No. How many times do we need to go through this.
Also, once again, why are you so distraught about what someone from a series of tedious children’s films said?
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jan 26, 2021 13:06:24 GMT
I'm not at all distraught.
So they are complicit but not to blamee?
Try making an argument instead of just saying no.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2021 13:20:03 GMT
There's not an argument to make. It's explicit in the words she said. The words she said don't match your interpretation. You are reaching desperately in order to be monstrously upset about a non-thing that someone from a kid's show didn't say.
If I said "I don't like boiled eggs" and you interpreted that as me wanting to piss on the burned remains of every chicken farmer, I wouldn't think I'd have to make the argument that all I said was that I don't like boiled eggs, nor would I know how to make that argument.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jan 26, 2021 13:27:20 GMT
So nothing then?
here again:
"Just a reminder that white women are just as complicit in upholding and enforcing white supremacy."
Have we got blame. Yes clearly. have we got membership of a particular racial group. yes clearly. And have we got blame apportioned to that ethnic group. Again clearly.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2021 13:31:14 GMT
We've been over this sufficient times, we're just repeating ourselves. You wish to believe a non-entity said something she didn't so that you can feel outraged. I've told you she didn't say it. I don't think we need to go round this loop any more times.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jan 26, 2021 13:38:53 GMT
I know you like to throw around the outrage card when you can't find another label but no, I'm not outraged in the slightest.
it's as plain as the nose on my face what she said. it's their for all to see.
As I said to OOTLG you seem unable to muster an argument apart from just saying no/
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2021 14:07:56 GMT
You seemed outraged. Otherwise why would you have posted about it in the first place?
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on Jan 26, 2021 14:12:35 GMT
So when i say "interesting" i mean I'm outraged?
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Post by ootlg on Jan 26, 2021 17:05:13 GMT
Using "a nonentity from a kids' show" to bolster an argument's scraping the barrel a bit.
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Post by rick49 on Feb 16, 2021 1:08:06 GMT
San Francisco School Board kept a person off their parent advisory committee because he’s a white male"The San Francisco School Board has been in the news a lot recently. First it was controversy over the decision to rename 44 schools in the district. Then it was the decision to get rid of selective admissions at their best performing high school on the grounds that meritocracy is racist." "Over the weekend, the board took another hit in the pages of the San Francisco Chronicle when columnist Heather Knight relayed the story of a volunteer who wanted to become part of the board’s Parent Advisory Committee. Seth Brenzel would have been the only gay member of the group and the only man, but after discussing it for two solid hours the school board rejected him because he’s white:" hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/02/15/san-francisco-school-board-kept-person-off-parent-advisory-committee-hes-white-male/all they see is the color of someones skin. skin color is the deciding factor in everything.
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Post by flatandy on Feb 16, 2021 1:46:03 GMT
Selective admissions at high school level are rotten and should end and reinforce structural wealth privilege and therefore - as a correlation - race privilege. But all those right-wingers who pretend to be upset about structural elitism in academia and pretend to care about the exclusion fo the poor white working class should be just as up in arms about selective admission
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Post by perrykneeham on Feb 16, 2021 8:04:03 GMT
Depends what they are selecting, surely? I'm sure people would be just as upset by arbitrary positive discrimination which just devalues everything.
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Post by ootlg on Feb 16, 2021 10:12:55 GMT
The weakness in selection is the human factor, those who select, discriminate, make the decisions. First we need a very good basic education. Then we need wider choice for the kids. The education factory process needs to be dismantled.
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Post by rick49 on Feb 16, 2021 11:44:45 GMT
Selective admissions at high school level are rotten and should end and reinforce structural wealth privilege and therefore - as a correlation - race privilege. But all those right-wingers who pretend to be upset about structural elitism in academia and pretend to care about the exclusion fo the poor white working class should be just as up in arms about selective admission they asked him zero questions. they looked at the color of his skin and said get the hell out of here. can't make this stuff up. "The gay dad never utters a single word. The board members do not ask the dad a single question before declining to approve him for the committee. They say they’ll consider allowing him to volunteer if he comes back with a slate of more diverse candidates, ideally including an Arab parent, a Native American parent, a Vietnamese parent and a Chinese parent who doesn’t speak English."so they would be willing to lay out money for an interpreter for a chinese parent who doesn't speak english. why don't they want arab, american indian, and vietnamese parents who don't speak english? "All of the 10 current members are straight moms." all straight women. but a gay man isn't diverse enough. i'm sure you wouldn't have been upset if you were rejected for a job because of your skin color, right andy?
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