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Post by Repat Van on Aug 24, 2020 22:41:07 GMT
As sure as night follows day ...... "The reporting however seemed to avoid Blake's apparent criminal record. Wisconsin Circuit Court lists a man with the same name, age and address as the subject of an active arrest warrant, with three charges relating to domestic abuse, including 3rd degree sexual assault. ©wcca.wicourts.gov ©wcca.wicourts.gov A 2015 article in the local press describes an incident in a Kenosha bar, during which an intoxicated 24-year-old man by the name Jacob Blake drew a gun during a quarrel with another patron. When police later stopped Blake's car, he resisted arrest and was injured by a police dog." This is true. The police always try to deflect from their actions with a “bit this person may have had a criminal record”. Are we back to: “if you have ever done something bad in the past then it’s ok for you to be shot in the street. When unarmed. In the back.” No, it still doesn’t make it ok! Whether you are a literal saint or Pablo Escobar - Being unarmed and shot in the back Is never ok. (Curiously they never also release the service history of the police officer in this situation.)
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Post by voice on Aug 25, 2020 0:01:46 GMT
Plus, the idea its fine to shoot someone cos of past actions is clearly ludicrous, though not as ludicrous than to suggest every cop on the force has an encyclopedic knowledge of every persons past history.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 25, 2020 0:08:23 GMT
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 0:57:28 GMT
Plus, the idea its fine to shoot someone cos of past actions is clearly ludicrous, though not as ludicrous than to suggest every cop on the force has an encyclopedic knowledge of every persons past history. People definitely see alleged criminals as less than human. It’s weird to me how whenever this kind of thing happens they start to dig into somebody’s past and raise any wrongdoings as if it is somehow relevant. Particularly when, in many such instances the attending police officers will have no idea of the individuals criminal past. The only thing that should be relevant is, in that moment is the person being apprehended actually posing a physical threat (I.e aiming a weapon at a police officer.) This is like when that guy was being arrested for failing to pay child support. He ran off (which was a stupid thing to do) but then the officer decided a reasonable response to that was shooting him in the back. Because it’s easier to get child support from a dead man. I do think that was one of the rare cases where the officer was held to account. But this is normal. The routine is 1) Dig into the injured person’s past 2) Deflect by pointing out any other stories at the moment that you have suddenly decided you care about.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 0:57:58 GMT
The KKK have endorsed the Republicans. Also what is wrong with this statement: “ Tonight, Jacob Blake was shot in the back multiple times, in broad daylight, in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Kathy and I join his family, friends, and neighbors in hoping earnestly that he will not succumb to his injuries. While we do not have all of the details yet, what we know for certain is that he is not the first Black man or person to have been shot or injured or mercilessly killed at the hands of individuals in law enforcement in our state or our country. We stand with all those who have and continue to demand justice, equity, and accountability for Black lives in our country—lives like those of George Floyd, of Breonna Taylor, Tony Robinson, Dontre Hamilton, Ernest Lacy, and Sylville Smith. And we stand against excessive use of force and immediate escalation when engaging with Black Wisconsinites.I have said all along that although we must offer our empathy, equally important is our action. In the coming days, we will demand just that of elected officials in our state who have failed to recognize the racism in our state and our country for far too long.”
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 1:02:03 GMT
“ Part of the reason the riots have gotten so out of hand is because there has been largely no condemnation from the national Democrats.”
LOL!!!! :D
Yes. It’s that easy. All it takes is for a registered Democrat to say “excuse me Mr/Ms Rioter, can you please stop doing that” and they will stop. Immediately.
Goodness.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 25, 2020 1:03:56 GMT
Police said they were called to the address to deal with a domestic disturbance, but it is unclear who called or what happened before the video recording began.why not wait till the investigation is complete to criticize the cops involved? can't do that. he's been deemed guilty by the internet judges and jury. the same folks condemning the cop didn't flick an eyelash about a black man walking up to a 5-year old white kid and blowing his head off.
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Post by rick49 on Aug 25, 2020 1:10:07 GMT
white on black=bad. black on white=good/who cares/they deserved it.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 1:31:10 GMT
white on black=bad. black on white=good/who cares/they deserved it. You continue to lose it.
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 1:31:56 GMT
Police said they were called to the address to deal with a domestic disturbance, but it is unclear who called or what happened before the video recording began.why not wait till the investigation is complete to criticize the cops involved? can't do that. he's been deemed guilty by the internet judges and jury. the same folks condemning the cop didn't flick an eyelash about a black man walking up to a 5-year old white kid and blowing his head off. Top class whataboutery. Well done!
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 25, 2020 8:10:50 GMT
Of course, he could have done as instructed by the police. He had just been involved in an altercation and could have had a weapon in the car. The car had blacked out windows, so the cops couldn't have seen what he was doing once in the car. It's unlikely they knew the kids were in the back. So, unless the "victim" has deaf and blind, I would say that he's very much the author of his own misfortune. They usually are. He could have done as instructed. He did not. I still don’t see how shooting somebody in the back is considered a reasonable alternative to letting him go. Or even arresting him. The “oh but if he had only listened to me” so I had to kill him is a fairly weak argument. Especially when nothing about it appears to be self defence. So, the 5-0 get a 911 call saying there's a bloke involved in an altercation. The bloke's a known violent gun-owner and is wanted for rape. When confronted, he ignores instructions and attempts to enter a car, where he may keep a weapon. He resists arrest. If you were a cop, what would you have done?
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 25, 2020 8:12:12 GMT
baloo making excuses for a black man being executed in the street, colour me shocked... I struggle to think .
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 25, 2020 10:17:16 GMT
It is very odd that the BBC choose to lead their article with a statement like "Jacob Blake, 29, is in a stable condition after he was shot several times as he went to a car and opened its door in the city of Kenosh" as if that was the cause and effect.
Around 20 paragraphs later, we see "The person who shot the video, Raysean White, said that before he began taking it, he saw police wrestle with Mr Blake. He said police punched and Tasered Mr Blake."
Ah, that's a very different story isn't it? No mention whatsoever of the bloke's rap sheet of course.
It's almost like the BBC enjoy rabble-rousing.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 25, 2020 11:05:00 GMT
I’m not commenting much on this story until I know more - although I suspect that nobody is going to come out of this looking good - except to say that it’s absolutely mental that someone shot in the back 5 times at that range is still alive. So, I suppose the doctors come out of this looking pretty good.
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 25, 2020 11:17:54 GMT
So you're saying larger calibre guns are required?
Interesting.
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Post by flatandy on Aug 25, 2020 11:20:20 GMT
The policeman’s a f**k**g terrible marksman
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Post by perrykneeham on Aug 25, 2020 11:57:50 GMT
I jest, of course, but you make a valid point. If Dibble had really wanted to kill him, he would have.
I was disgusted by the Governor's statement: how dare he apologise in advance. Was he trying to win votes or reduce the tantrum riot?
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Post by jimboky on Aug 25, 2020 13:01:01 GMT
The policeman’s a f**k**g terrible marksman
or he/they were not shooting to kill,,,,
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 15:08:17 GMT
The policeman’s a f**k**g terrible marksman or he/they were not shooting to kill,,,, Well what were the 6 additional shots for?
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Post by Repat Van on Aug 25, 2020 15:09:04 GMT
I’m not commenting much on this story until I know more - although I suspect that nobody is going to come out of this looking good - except to say that it’s absolutely mental that someone shot in the back 5 times at that range is still alive. So, I suppose the doctors come out of this looking pretty good. He maybe paralysed I have read which is fairly sh*t. But that’s just alleged and only from the waist down.
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