Ruth Bader Ginsburg

[jimboky]

makes you wonder who would biden choose? unlike trump he will not tell who he will choose,

[flatandy]

So, yesterday was the start of the hearings for the replacement.

This is indoors where people who tested positive for covid within the last 2 weeks, and where other people have been in contact with infected people and have refused to get tested (or at least let anyone know test results) are talking without masks. You would not let your parents go into this room because it's too dangerous. And yet the people running the hearing are doing it.

This tells you all you need to know about how much the participants are "pro-life", and tells you all you need to know about the legitimacy of the hearing - it's clearly being run in a seriously dodgy way. The fact that Lindsay Graham has explicitly said that the hearing is redundant because he already knows how everyone will vote is also pretty telling, I would think. They don't care about the hearing, the legitimacy. They're just putting their veneer on their court-packing.

[voice]

Well they know they have lost the majority and are unlikely ever to get it back, this is the only way they can cement and impose their antediluvian outlook and policies on the majority.

[flatandy]

Yes. We all know that. But the way they're doing is evidence that it is absolutely not about maintaining proper process. A reasonable committee would not be holding hearings during a pandemic full of people who should be quarantining.

[voice]

yeah, but Moscow Mitch and Chicken Don don't care about any of that, you know that, Grasley and the lot of them in that room could peg it for all they care, just as long as they hold on long enough to get this done. They are willing to let millions of US citizens get evicted, go destitute and some go hungry in order to prioritize this. They don't care about anything but this and what this achieves for their shrinking minority.

[voice]

and if you're worried about the support staff, cleaners, security and so on, they matter even less than nothing to these people, they mostly are from DC so are probably democratic voters.

[flatandy]

Yeah. They're "pro-life" in the way Pol Pot was.

[voice]

Even the pro-life thing has always been bullshit, if they cared so much for the unborn they wouldn't effectually abandon them policy wise the moment of delivery. Being against abortion was always about them having control over women. Its like their main argument against everyone getting good quality single payer health care, that the gov has no business getting between them and their Dr, well unless its women's health, then the government must regulate the sh!t out of that by telling women exactly what they can and can't do with their bodies.

www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/politics/mike-pence-patty-murray-photo/index.html

[rick49]

Oct 13, 2020 13:01:19 GMT flatandy said:

Yeah. They're "pro-life" in the way Pol Pot was.

the left promotes killing millions upon millions of unborn (and even born) babies, then accuse the right of being pol pot.

Projection!

[flatandy]

I'm accusing the right of not being pro-life when they're so clearly not.

[perrykneeham]

I'm pro-life, but also pro-choice. I'm prepared to accept that it's complicated and probably can't be legislated for. Maybe you have the right to decide, but a duty to be responsible. Sounds fair.

[mids]

Foetal lives matter.

[mids]

It's weird how the far left are against killing adult murderers but are positively giddy with glee at the thought of killing babies.

[flatandy]

Oct 13, 2020 17:42:35 GMT mids said:

It's weird how the far left are against killing adult murderers but are positively giddy with glee at the thought of killing babies.

Babies might become right wingers, so it's the only sensible choice.

[flatandy]

Oct 13, 2020 17:22:03 GMT perrykneeham said:

I'm pro-life, but also pro-choice. I'm prepared to accept that it's complicated and probably can't be legislated for. Maybe you have the right to decide, but a duty to be responsible. Sounds fair.

I think everyone sane is pro-life. And almost everyone sane is anti-abortion, in that they'd like there to be fewer and fewer abortions necessary.

Someone who was genuinely anti-abortion would spend their lives dedicated to making sure there was super-widespread, incredibly easy, access to free birth control for everyone. Along with very widespread sex-education. And, presumably, more blow jobs. And more gay sex.

Anyway, I think you're right that it can't be legislated for. It's a health issue, and should be a matter of choice.

[voice]

The main driver for legalised abortion in the UK was health, cos you can outlaw abortion, but that does not mean you can end abortion. It was legalised in the UK due to the very large number of horribly done back street abortions or self abortions that killed amd mained a lot of women.

The idea abortion is used as easy birth control by the feckless is just a myth, no real evidence of this.

In the US, as I've said, this is not about the life of babies as they care so little about what happens to them once born, if they did they'd be supporting better health services, better education and so on, not doing everything possible to kill any program aimed at imoroving these things.

Plain and simply, they don't want women having control of their bodies and reproduction as the same people who want to Make the Coat hanger Great Again also want to make oral contraceptive impossible to get.

[mids]

Literally no one gives a sh*t about "women having control of their bodies", whatever that actually means (it means nothing. It's literally a nonsensical statement and concept made up by pseudo-intellectual morons). As far as I can tell, the anti abortion people don't want innocent babies killed. I'm not that bothered one way or another, if women want to kill their babies then so be it but it does seem that the anti abortion people have the more rational arguments compared to the abortion lot.

[flatandy]

I see Mids is also in the pocket of Big Coat Hanger.

[mids]

Also Big Hot Bath and Big Gin.

[voice]

Mids, if you ever overcome your deep fear of wonen and meet and talk to one, you are gonna be so surprised.