Black history month

[mids]

Marxism, destroying capitalism, abolishing the police and abolishing families (all blm goals) just might be though.

[mids]

I mean, it's a bit much, isn't it?

[voice]

well as you made all that up, neither is just lying out your arse.

[voice]

wow some random nonentity says something stupid on twitter, what ever next?

[flatandy]

Dec 10, 2020 15:09:09 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

Who do you think are conflating things?
BLM the political party or the Millwall supporters? Or do you think it was a wild coincidence they were called BLM?

I'm not sure I'm aware of a political party called BLM. Do you think footballers are all explicitly supporting that political party? Where is that political party standing? Where can I see the specifics of its manifesto?

[flatandy]

This is very good:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/10/populist-right-free-expression-taking-a-knee-left-snowflakes

He is fully aware that taking a knee isn’t owned by any organisation: it is an expression of solidarity that goes back decades, back to the US civil rights movement. But he is also aware that those provoked by the claims of minorities for equality and justice are desperate to clothe their resentment in respectability. It isn’t protests against racism in general they are opposed to, oh goodness no: just this particular protest.

[mids]

Nothing in the Guardian is "very good".

[voice]

Its funny when people riot against discrimination and being executed in the street by dibble for being black, the far right go on and on about 'why oh why don't they protest peaceably, if they were peaceable we'd listen', but then someone takes a knee and they wail 'oh no not like that'

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Dec 10, 2020 15:30:56 GMT flatandy said:

Dec 10, 2020 15:09:09 GMT Minge är en jävla besserwisser said:

Who do you think are conflating things?
BLM the political party or the Millwall supporters? Or do you think it was a wild coincidence they were called BLM?

I'm not sure I'm aware of a political party called BLM. Do you think footballers are all explicitly supporting that political party? Where is that political party standing? Where can I see the specifics of its manifesto?

here you go, or is this blm?

web.archive.org/web/20151005094605/http://blacklivesmatter.com/about

Is this what they are taking the knee for?


How Black folks living with disabilities and different abilities bear the burden of state sponsored Darwinian experiments that attempt to squeeze us into boxes of normality defined by white supremacy, and that is state violence.

or this?

How Black queer and trans folks bear a unique burden from a hetero-patriarchal society that disposes of us like garbage and simultaneously fetishizes us and profits off of us, and that is state violence.

Is that what I'm supposed to sign up to at a footie match?

[wetkingcanute]

Hi voice,
This is that "random Nonentity" Sasha Johnson. Self styled leader of the UK BLM pollical party...enjoy.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

And this:
is this what they are taking the knee for?

When you design an event / campaign / et cetera based on the work of queer Black women, don’t invite them to participate in shaping it, but ask them to provide materials and ideas for next steps for said event, that is racism in practice. It’s also hetero-patriarchal. Straight men, unintentionally or intentionally, have taken the work of queer Black women and erased our contributions. Perhaps if we were the charismatic Black men many are rallying around these days, it would have been a different story, but being Black queer women in this society (and apparently within these movements) tends to equal invisibility and non-relevancy.

Or this?

We completely expect those who benefit directly and improperly from White supremacy to try and erase our existence.


Am I trying to erase peoples' existence?


anyway Please do not change the conversation by talking about how your life matters, too. so I won't

[mids]

That's just the ravings of fcuking nutcases.

[perrykneeham]

Thick ones too.

[mids]

Dec 10, 2020 17:19:05 GMT wetkingcanute said:

Hi voice,
This is that "random Nonentity" Sasha Johnson. Self styled leader of the UK BLM pollical party...enjoy.

Jesus. She is a total loon. Probably would, mind.

[perrykneeham]

Probably what she needs to cheer her up a bit.

[Minge är en jävla besserwisser]

Am i supposed to endorse this:


As the burgeoning movement for black lives aims to call out and ameliorate police brutality, economic disenfranchisement, mass incarceration and other forms of state-sanctioned violence and dispossession disproportionately impacting people of color, activists are rightly naming the state as the object of its critique. These very real, very present problems make it clear this is not the time for political platitudes. As such, presidential hopefuls — especially Democrats who claim to be progressive — will most likely be beset by disruption.

Throughout the long history of black struggle in the United States, policy shifts often followed acts of civil disobedience and mass protest by black activists — the “Bloody Sunday” march in Selma, Alabama, is just one example of an organized action to bring national attention to the need for federal voting rights protections.
Much of the developing public discourse on race and racism has to do with the disruptive actions these bold activists have conceptualized and performed before and during this presidential race. Activists have leapt onto stages in the presence of thousands of white liberals to remind them that #BlackLivesMatter is more than a tagline to be placed on a cute, politically correct T-shirt. In response, many have expressed resentment and discomfort when activists’ criticize them, but some are abandoning the apathy and complacency that lies at the heart of racial antagonism and white racial supremacy.

[flatandy]

I don't care whether you endorse it. Although you probably should be concerned about how the white hetero patriarchy mistreats black queer people, whether you endorse it is neither here nor there to my question.

My question was: Do you think footballers endorse it? Do you think footballers are all politically engaged members of the activist left, focused on the black trans community?

But even that's going down an unnecessary rabbit hole. We are told by Millwall fans that they oppose taking the knee because they oppose the groups who piss on Churchill's statue. So really, you'd only be booing the footballers taking the knee if you believe that footballers - f**k**g footballers, generally thick as two short planks, right wing arseholes who believe they're self-made and want nobody taking their hard earned in tax footballers - are backing the "Marxists" who piss on Churchill.

Do you think footballers are backing the Marxists who piss on Churchill?

[mids]

<snigger>

[mids]

She'd probably look decent if she smiled and wore a nice frock.

[flatandy]

Hmm. "Self styled leader of BLM"?

I've just styled myself the leader of British conservatism. Now, presumably, if I say something stupid you'll all never vote conservative again, right?