Scum

[mids]

They tend to invent rules or be complicit in the invention of rules to justify their existence. Unconscious bias training being a good example.

[voice]

ours are just there to make sure management get the rules right for disciplinary actions, hiring and firing. least that was my impression when I dealt with them.

[voice]

Though I've never been the other side of the table from HR so your impressions might be different...

[perrykneeham]

Funnily enough, I've never really had dealings with PC ones but they do love to build an empire of processes that they say are important - the implication being that it's a legal requirement. It never is, but it makes their little empire embedded.

[perrykneeham]

Jan 30, 2021 18:09:18 GMT voice said:

Though I've never been the other side of the table from HR so your impressions might be different...

Well, there may be something to that on the case in question. I've never had any HR trouble in that respect: I just find them painful and unnecessary. I suspect there's a certain type that finds them indispensable.

[voice]

yeah, management

[mids]

Jan 30, 2021 18:13:45 GMT perrykneeham said:

Jan 30, 2021 18:09:18 GMT voice said:

Though I've never been the other side of the table from HR so your impressions might be different...

Well, there may be something to that on the case in question. I've never had any HR trouble in that respect: I just find them painful and unnecessary. I suspect there's a certain type that finds them indispensable.

Yeah, HR.

[mids]

They were probably useful back in the days when they were happy to be known as "Personnel". Once they rebranded themselves as Human Resources, it went to their heads.

[perrykneeham]

Jan 30, 2021 18:30:21 GMT voice said:

yeah, management

Poor management maybe. Grown-ups, not so much. The whiney and the inadequate love HR.

[flatandy]

Jan 30, 2021 18:10:17 GMT perrykneeham said:

Funnily enough, I've never really had dealings with PC ones but they do love to build an empire of processes that they say are important - the implication being that it's a legal requirement. It never is, but it makes their little empire embedded.

It's possible that it's in a companies best interests to treat their employees even more decently than the minimum legal requirement.

[mids]

Then why do I have to do wanky diversity type training? That's in the best interests of no one.

[flatandy]

Unless your behaviour on here is pure performance, it appears that it would be in the best interests of almost everyone.

[perrykneeham]

Jan 30, 2021 20:14:31 GMT flatandy said:

Jan 30, 2021 18:10:17 GMT perrykneeham said:

Funnily enough, I've never really had dealings with PC ones but they do love to build an empire of processes that they say are important - the implication being that it's a legal requirement. It never is, but it makes their little empire embedded.

It's possible that it's in a companies best interests to treat their employees even more decently than the minimum legal requirement.

Haha! You really don't know this game.

[mids]

Jan 30, 2021 20:20:50 GMT flatandy said:

Unless your behaviour on here is pure performance, it appears that it would be in the best interests of almost everyone.

Doing a silly, childish online course for an hour is beneficial, you say?

[flatandy]

No. Doing diversity training can be.

[mids]

Doing a silly, childish online course for an hour is beneficial, you say?

[Repat Van]

Jan 30, 2021 17:48:52 GMT mids said:

They tend to invent rules or be complicit in the invention of rules to justify their existence. Unconscious bias training being a good example.

They don’t invent rules you nimrod. They typically work with management in building policy to apply either internal rules or government ones. (I.e our code of conduct was certainly not built by HR in the slightest.)

Years ago when I was in the UK, the US head office wanted to get rid of our head of department (redundancy.) They thought they could just do it the same way they do in Texas and the UK HR team had to step in to say if they did that that was a clear as day lawsuit waiting to happen.

The people who normally whine about HR as almost always the men who are annoyed HR curtailing their ability to sexually harass women and be racist in the office.

[Repat Van]

Jan 30, 2021 20:16:36 GMT mids said:

Then why do I have to do wanky diversity type training? That's in the best interests of no one.

See - exactly the type of man I was talking about!

[ootlg]

HR today's far more complicated than the old days of Personnel. Management's there to see the business runs smoothly amd makes a profit. They don't need to be getting bogged down in personal problems of staff. Which is why they employ professionals to do just that. In theory anyway.

[wetkingcanute]

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