The benefits of Brexit

[perrykneeham]

Yeah, responsible, compassionate and generous must be alien to you.

[Repat Van]

Yes. That’s it. Spot on.

[perrykneeham]

Uh-oh. She's been at the sherry again.

[bertruss2]

The idea that it's all water under the bridge, that Brexit is finished and done with, is fantasy. What was the point of it if nothing much changes? The changes will not be for the benefit of the vast majority of the mugs who voted for it. This is a project by the Tory elite for the Tory elite. For the politicians it means power and position. This is Brexit for Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Gove and their cronies. It's for Tory donors, the very wealthy and big business.

[perrykneeham]

Horseshit. Just your fever dream. Stop whining about stuff that hasn't happened.

[flatandy]

I think you give Brexit and the Tory cronies too much credit, Bert. I think very few people will be making a killing off thus. Obviously most of the public will be poorer for it, but so will most of the ultra-rich corrupt tortes. It’s not a cunning ruse to make money. It was just stupid and a bit vindictive I’m sure some idiots in the Tory ranks believe that freed from the shackles of Brussels there will be an orgy of deregulation where they can finally stop paying for basic safety standards for their employees and in their products and the money will flood to them, but they’re idiots who think their businesses are closed ecosystems not dependent on staff or customers.

[mids]

You don't get asked to join...

[perrykneeham]

Factories Act 1802.

"Health & Safety Today
The Health and Safety at Work Act 1974, still forms the basis of workplace safety law in the UK, and went on to influence legislation in Europe, New Zealand and other parts of the world. While the principles have largely remained the same, the Act continues to see updates and reforms alongside the evolution of the workplace and new health and safety challenges that arise."

We need not worry too much about our Health & Safety by not being in close regulatory association with people who torture geese and commit industrialised genocide.

[flatandy]

But there are Tory idiots who believe that there will be an orgy of deregulation and did believe they were shackled by the EU, and that the deregulation will make them monstrous profits. These are people who’ve spent too much time with, and reading, the “intellectual” American right. Not the racist or god-bothering part of the American right, but the Ayn Rand worshipping financial-libertarian types like Paul Ryan. They’ve fully bought into this bollocks.

It’s not going to happen, but they wank themselves sore at night thinking about it.

[perrykneeham]

Idiots are as idiots do. I'd be amazed if the Venn diagram for exploitative, arseholes in business didn't include a good number of Labour supporters.

[bertruss2]

I think you give Brexit and the Tory cronies too much credit, Bert.

They're taking a gamble. But where it doesn't pay off, the elite have other options. For example, Rees-Mogg moved part of his business to Ireland, so that he still has a foot in the EU. Stanley, the father of Boris Johnson, has applied for French nationality to keep his EU citizenship. Not just the elite that can do that but it's not something the mass of Brexit mugs can do. Billionaire and Brexit donor James Dyson is moving his company headquarters from the UK to Singapore. UK Banks and financial firms are opening offices in the EU.

For Tory politicians, the pay-off is that Brexiteers have all the top jobs.

[perrykneeham]

"On 22 January 2019, Dyson announced plans to move the company HQ to Singapore, to be closer to its fastest growing markets.[39] The move however will only take place in 2021, after Dyson finishes renovating St James Power Station, a former coal-fired power plant built during pre-World War II colonial Singapore days in 1927"

Sounds both Brexity and progressive. Nit sure you can take much succour from it Bertie.

[wetkingcanute]

You can't have it both ways Bertie me old china.

It can't both be a terrible miscalculation by Cameron and all part of a cunning plan.

[mids]

Serbia have overtaken us in the International Highly Competitive Vaccine Race. Just sayin'.

[mids]

Looks like the Fhizer vaccine can keep at -20 ish for up to two weeks and five days in a fridge.

[perrykneeham]

Feb 20, 2021 17:30:37 GMT mids said:

Serbia have overtaken us in the International Highly Competitive Vaccine Race. Just sayin'.

I demand a sex test! You know they're cheating.

[perrykneeham]

Feb 20, 2021 17:34:46 GMT mids said:

Looks like the Fhizer vaccine can keep at -20 ish for up to two weeks and five days in a fridge.

Sounds ideal for wealthy, Protestant, northern Europeans to get them over the hump in the short term. Going forward .... not so much, but, you know .... unified approach .... Eursulla will have a good soundbite ... eutc.

[mids]

I think the EU will have to wait until the vaccine donations start coming in from Africa before they can really get to grips with the peundemic.

[perrykneeham]

I understand the sentiment that we'd rather toss our vaccine-bounty into the Channel to teach the cheurls a lesson, but we're bigger than that and, frankly, I don't know that they ever learn their lessons.

[bertruss2]

Feb 20, 2021 17:17:28 GMT wetkingcanute said:

You can't have it both ways Bertie me old china.
It can't both be a terrible miscalculation by Cameron and all part of a cunning plan.

Come on, it's not ancient history. You can remember how Brexit Britain began. And it's important not to forget it because it helps understand the mess that is resulting from it and how to react to it.

Cameron called the referendum to appease the extremists among Tory MPs and to stop the haemorrhaging of votes to Farage's UKIP. He was successful with that aim but lost the referendum campaign. Boris Johnston took a punt on supporting Brexit to advance his political career and it paid off. That's politics. Rival factions jostling to outmanoeuvre the other lot and individuals making a bid for the top jobs. For the wealthy and big business it creates opportunities for profit. It's called disaster capitalism.

That's how it happens, not through some mad genius planning it all in advance and pulling the strings. Dominic Cummings fancied himself in that role but he's served his purpose. That's not to say he won't be able to use his contacts and inside knowledge to further his own interests and beliefs.