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Post by Repat Van on May 1, 2024 19:51:58 GMT
Are you this dismissive of all sufferers of various conditions or just those with gender dysphoria? Why are you so dismissive of women athletes being forced to compete against transwomen? Look A Squirrel!! We are talking about the use of “chest feeding” and whether medical staff should deliberately cause distress in patients when it is easily avoided. |
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Post by mids on May 1, 2024 20:05:04 GMT
Nah, we're talking about men with cocks waltzing naked around women's wards. At least I am...
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Post by marechal on May 1, 2024 20:11:57 GMT
Let's focus on the issue we're discussing here, which isn't fairness in sport. If the only objection to trans women was just stopping their access to sport, then we could focus on that. But instead, you're talking about sport when everyone else here is talking about basic access to medical care. Transmen and women are being denied access to medical care? Where does it say that? It’s not really a separate issue. Accommodating people who identify as the opposite sex as it being a fact is creating valid concerns for a lot more people than their own number. |
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Post by flatandy on May 1, 2024 22:30:40 GMT
OK. So this is a thin end of the wedge issue. If you let trans women get appropriate treatment, then there risks being a case of an unfair 50m backstroke and we can't be having that.
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Post by Repat Van on May 1, 2024 22:55:31 GMT
Let's focus on the issue we're discussing here, which isn't fairness in sport. If the only objection to trans women was just stopping their access to sport, then we could focus on that. But instead, you're talking about sport when everyone else here is talking about basic access to medical care. Transmen and women are being denied access to medical care? Where does it say that? It’s not really a separate issue. Accommodating people who identify as the opposite sex as it being a fact is creating valid concerns for a lot more people than their own number. The topic under discussion is hospital wards, medical professionalism and where to place patients who to the casual observer will look like they are on the wrong ward. The sports discussion is —> way. |
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Post by Repat Van on May 1, 2024 22:56:15 GMT
Nah, we're talking about men with cocks waltzing naked around women's wards. At least I am... I guess you fantasising about men’s cocks is better than you thinking about children’s genitals so you are making some progress. |
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Post by Repat Van on May 1, 2024 22:59:00 GMT
You go in the ward that matches your sex as observed at birth. Ideally, at least. Obviously immigrants and lazy public sector workers have set back the advancement of the NHS and mixed sex wards still seem to be a thing. So how do you make sure that people are going to the ward that matches their sex observed at birth. And what if the people on the ward object to having somebody on their ward that appears to be of the opposite sex? |
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Post by marechal on May 1, 2024 23:28:36 GMT
OK. So this is a thin end of the wedge issue. If you let trans women get appropriate treatment, then there risks being a case of an unfair 50m backstroke and we can't be having that. Ah, my mistake. I thought you weren't being disingenuous here. You said they weren't getting basic access to medical care. Now it's "getting appropriate treatment". Appropriate for who I would ask. |
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Post by marechal on May 1, 2024 23:38:30 GMT
Transmen and women are being denied access to medical care? Where does it say that? It’s not really a separate issue. Accommodating people who identify as the opposite sex as it being a fact is creating valid concerns for a lot more people than their own number. The topic under discussion is hospital wards, medical professionalism and where to place patients who to the casual observer will look like they are on the wrong ward. The sports discussion is —> way. You brought up the idea of their "distress". That's the common denominator here. And what if the people on the ward object to having somebody on their ward that appears to be of the opposite sex?
Just tell them, "this person is a woman who's had a sex change and only appears to be a man - any objections to them staying here?" |
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Post by flatandy on May 1, 2024 23:40:09 GMT
Ah! You think a trans woman should get medical care that's appropriate for an overweight kitten? Appropriate medical care for the trans woman, obviously. Access to the correct hormones, correct therapy, and so on, that is given in an open way.
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Post by marechal on May 1, 2024 23:47:27 GMT
I'm talking about "appropriate" as in the appropriate ward to place them in, the appropriate language to use so as not to upset them, etc.
You just threw that in in your last post, so you diverged from your "basic access to medical care" point.
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Post by mids on May 30, 2024 12:28:16 GMT
Good. "The Government has today introduced regulations to restrict the prescribing and supply of puberty-suppressing hormones, known as ‘puberty blockers’, to children and young people under 18 in England, Wales and Scotland. The emergency ban will last from 3 June to 3 September. It will apply to prescriptions written by UK private prescribers and prescribers registered in the European Economic Area (EEA) or Switzerland. During this period no new patients under 18 will be prescribed these medicines for the purposes of puberty suppression in those experiencing gender dysphoria/incongruence under the care of these prescribers. The NHS stopped the routine prescription of puberty blocker treatments to under-18s following the Dr Cass Review into gender identity services. In addition, the government has also introduced indefinite restrictions to the prescribing of these medicines within NHS primary care in England, in line with NHS guidelines." www.gov.uk/government/news/new-restrictions-on-puberty-blockers |
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Post by mids on Jun 24, 2024 14:56:52 GMT
Why are men allowed in women's changing rooms? Can someone on the left explain, please? "Transgender policies at hospitals are putting women “at risk”, four NHS nurses have claimed, after blowing the whistle on the “intimidating” behaviour of a trans colleague. Lawyers for Bethany Hutchison, Lisa Lockey, Annice Grundy, Tracey Hooper and Joanne Bradbury, who work at the Darlington Memorial Hospital, said they were launching legal action and speaking publicly after managers “continued to brush aside their concerns”. The four have claimed that female nurses at the hospital — part of the County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust — have experienced panic attacks after being required to change into work clothes in front of a sexually active biological male. The male operating department practitioner, who the nurses have alleged has said openly that he does not take female hormones and is trying to get his girlfriend pregnant, identifies as a woman and uses the name Rose. Speaking for the group, Hutchison said that they wanted “women to be aware that there are transgender policies, particularly in the NHS, that are putting us at risk”. She said that “the extreme transgender ideology” was “ingrained” among health service managers and that it had “gone so far that we and other women have no choice but to speak out”. Hutchison claimed that nurses at her hospital were “terrified of sticking their heads above the parapet”, adding: “This cannot be right and we want a change in policy, not only at our hospital, but across the NHS and wider society.” archive.is/3xDmB |
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Post by mids on Jun 27, 2024 16:49:24 GMT
Aahaha. She's utterly clueless.
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Post by Repat Van on Jun 27, 2024 22:16:53 GMT
Aahaha. She's utterly clueless. Why are men obsessing over who is a woman? How utterly bizarre. |
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Post by mids on Jun 27, 2024 22:25:51 GMT
Why do the left a) hate women and b) not understand biology?
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Post by mids on Jun 27, 2024 22:27:16 GMT
c) not understand the importance of demographics?
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Post by voice on Jun 28, 2024 2:27:23 GMT
It's hilarious the right think it's such a gotcha question when it only makes em look stupid everytime one stutters it out
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Post by mids on Jun 28, 2024 4:32:09 GMT
Ah. You're unable to answer. I see.
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Post by Repat Van on Jun 28, 2024 9:39:31 GMT
It's hilarious the right think it's such a gotcha question when it only makes em look stupid everytime one stutters it out Are female presenters out there obsessing over what a man is? Or is it just men who are being weird on the topic? |
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