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Post by Repat Van on May 4, 2021 9:11:52 GMT
Apparently it’s not that easy as we see with the whole Caster Semanya debacle. In the vast majority of cases it is. Well yes that’s surely what the debate is about how we incorporate transgender women into sports is about. Because your simplistic approach will not cover the vast majority of cases (including transgender and intersex athletes.)
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Post by Repat Van on May 4, 2021 9:12:27 GMT
"Scientifically informed" indeed. There's no science involved in declaring oneself something which one is not. I think you need to look at your definition of science. What you're thinking about is whatever the opposite of science is. Mumbo-jumbo. So says the man in the pub.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 4, 2021 9:36:33 GMT
You don't need a weatherman to know the way the wind blows.
You keep believing your juju, if you like. Just don't expect to be taken seriously just because a few other defective dummies agree with you online.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on May 4, 2021 10:31:29 GMT
In the vast majority of cases it is. Well yes that’s surely what the debate is about how we incorporate transgender women into sports is about. Because your simplistic approach will not cover the vast majority of cases (including transgender and intersex athletes.) What are you babbling about? It covers all transgender and the vast majority of women. There'sa tiny fraction of the popultaion like caster who are a touch grey but they can be sorted on a case by case basis. If you're a woman by sex you get to play women's sport. if you were born a man you get to play men's sport.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 4, 2021 11:24:36 GMT
Or you could play women's sport if it's non-contact and you're not expecting a woman's prize money or trophy and you're not taking the place of a woman.
I suspect that support for this sort of thing lies mainly with those who were left on the bench and/or the shelf.
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Post by reverend on May 4, 2021 11:29:37 GMT
Support for this kind of thing comes from an ideology, women are complaining about the unfairness of this and the woke have thier hands over thier ears doing the "lalalalala" bit, biological men should not be competing aginst women, they are not women!
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Post by perrykneeham on May 6, 2021 20:56:41 GMT
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Post by flatandy on May 6, 2021 21:19:55 GMT
It's nice to see a good news story for a change. Well done her.
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Post by mids on May 6, 2021 22:22:14 GMT
Well done to him for being stronger than women.
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Post by Marshall on May 6, 2021 23:16:59 GMT
Wait, I thought this kind of thing never happens? Madness, pure and simple.
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Post by Minge är en jävla besserwisser on May 7, 2021 6:46:49 GMT
Even in the Guardian:
However, a number of scientific papers have recently shown people who have undergone male puberty retain significant advantages in power and strength even after taking medication to suppress their testosterone levels. Hubbard lived as a male for 35 years, and did not compete in international weightlifting. But since transitioning in 2012 she has won several elite titles.
It'ds delusional.
I think I might open the bowling for NZ this year.
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Post by whiterum on May 7, 2021 7:09:37 GMT
There's talk now Japan might not be holding the Olympics after all, millions spent and lost, shame.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 7:13:45 GMT
It was always a bit iffy. And daft in the middle of a pandemic.
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Post by whiterum on May 7, 2021 7:31:15 GMT
Japan were great hosting the world cup I was looking forward to the Olympics.
I blame the Tories.
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Post by reverend on May 7, 2021 7:45:23 GMT
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Post by reverend on May 7, 2021 7:55:14 GMT
Well on the subject of the election, if Jenner can do the job then go for it, don't play the trans card, actually make a reasoned argument why you can do the job better and why voting for Jenner will make your life better, it's not just about sports.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 12:19:01 GMT
Even in the Guardian: However, a number of scientific papers have recently shown people who have undergone male puberty retain significant advantages in power and strength even after taking medication to suppress their testosterone levels. Hubbard lived as a male for 35 years, and did not compete in international weightlifting. But since transitioning in 2012 she has won several elite titles.It'ds delusional. I think I might open the bowling for NZ this year. That Guardian has long had a TERFy element.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 12:25:55 GMT
Not really. They hounded out whatshername a few months ago for crimes against transgendery.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 14:01:02 GMT
So, a question that's come up recently - so perhaps our permanently outraged puce offended by everything brigade can let me know what they think:
How do you react when you see someone put their pronouns in their email signature. You know "pronouns: he him/she her/ they them"
Someone was saying they were concerned that their clients might react badly to seeing that rather than just treat it neutrally.
Given that you lot are the kind who get offended by everything, you're probably fairly representative of the people they're concerned about offending. Any thoughts?
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Post by ootlg on May 7, 2021 14:50:36 GMT
I don't give much of a sh*t about anything unless it affects me.
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