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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 14:55:55 GMT
I can only answer as one of the permanently cool, take people as I find them brigade. One of our adminy-type people had she/her in her Zoom call name at our department meeting the other day. I vaguely thought, "bit of a tit" then promptly forgot about it.
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Post by voice on May 7, 2021 16:32:12 GMT
I don't give much of a sh*t about anything unless it affects me. And yet you've been clutching your pearls about a few trans women playing on the odd collage sports team, teams you'll never see or get to try out for. |
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2021 17:06:45 GMT
Couldn't care less. Happy to play along as a courtesy. Indulge them. Bless.
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 17:15:29 GMT
Saying that, I'm not putting "my pronouns" anywhere for anyone to see. If people can work it out for themselves, fine. If they can't, fine. Not that I've "got pronouns" in the first place. There are pronouns out there but none of them belong to me.
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Post by ootlg on May 7, 2021 17:19:42 GMT
I don't give much of a sh*t about anything unless it affects me. And yet you've been clutching your pearls about a few trans women playing on the odd collage sports team, teams you'll never see or get to try out for. Have I? You're using the 'pearls' trope a bit too much btw. Loses its effect after a while - just a tip. |
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 17:24:27 GMT
Like Mids, I'm not about to put my pronouns in my email. It seems kind of like a performance and isn't necessary.
There is a counter-argument that I fully understand, though: If enough people put their pronouns in their email, then nobody will feel like they're making a big deal by including theirs. And suddenly all our pearl clutchy types who're all "I didn't know Xey wanted to be called Xem so I keep misgendering him" will lose their stupid argument and can instead spend their time working out how to pronounce Xey.
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Post by voice on May 7, 2021 17:27:30 GMT
I tend the whole pronoun thing a bit a bit wankers tbh, though I do notice it's done by a mix of right on virtue signalers and people who get very offended if you use the wrong one.
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Post by Marshall on May 7, 2021 18:09:21 GMT
I don't get the pronoun thing when it's obvious the person is not identifying with the opposite sex (or any of the infinite variations in between).
Is it a supposed to be a show of solidarity?
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 18:16:32 GMT
It's supposed to make it a non-event when a non-binary person puts their pronouns down. If everyone does it, it's just not a big deal when someone puts "they/them". Everyone just accepts it, knows what to use and moves along. If the only person putting their pronouns down is the non-binary it makes it look like a big fussy deal when it shouldn't be.
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Post by reverend on May 7, 2021 18:20:21 GMT
Ignore it, silly theater for narcissists!
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Post by Marshall on May 7, 2021 18:24:19 GMT
I see. Make it a non-event by making it a ubiquitous event.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 18:51:14 GMT
Ignore it, silly theater for narcissists! Do you think someone you might be buying a product from is a bit of a performative arse if they include it, or do you just ignore it and not even notice? Would it change your attitude towards them if you saw it? |
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2021 18:53:23 GMT
In a couple of years, everyone will have moved on past this silly fad and people who dabbled in it will not thank you to remind them of it.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 18:56:12 GMT
I see. Make it a non-event by making it a ubiquitous event. I think that's the theory. Also useful if "Channing Montgomery" emails you. You think: "Channing Tatum's a bloke, but Channing Stockard's a bird - I wish I knew which pronoun to use for this emailer". |
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Post by Marshall on May 7, 2021 19:05:03 GMT
Yes, or "Rainbow Phillips", I can see that.
Carol used to be a name used by men back in the day.
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 19:08:17 GMT
Taylor, Ash, Jan, Daryl, Lou, Sam, etc...
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Post by mids on May 7, 2021 19:17:50 GMT
Why would you need to use someone's pronouns in an email? Just refer to them by name.
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Post by perrykneeham on May 7, 2021 19:28:45 GMT
Yes, or "Rainbow Phillips", I can see that. Carol used to be a name used by men back in the day. Latin days? |
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Post by flatandy on May 7, 2021 19:33:05 GMT
Why would you need to use someone's pronouns in an email? Just refer to them by name. To: Mids cc: Taylor Swift Dear Mids Taylor said that she wants to give you a blowjob. Meet her behind the bike sheds at 6pm. Yrs Andy -- To: Mids cc: Taylor Kitsch Dear Mids Taylor said that he wants to give you a blowjob. Meet him behind the bike sheds at 6pm. Yrs Andy -- |
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Post by Marshall on May 7, 2021 19:36:11 GMT
No, I saw this with a few people in movies from the 40s-50s.
Carol Reed was one.
Edit: to Baloo
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