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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:18:41 GMT
""If Chris Belter was not a white defendant from a rich and influential family, it is my belief he wouldn't have received the original plea deal, and he would surely have been sentenced to prison," Cohen said in a statement to The Hill." Wanker cry-baby. Do we know if the victims were poor and black? Perhaps they were rich, white and influential. They seem to have Ben able to get a prosexucution years after the fact. Yes - he’s a “wanker cry-baby” for taking issue with an exceptionally lenient sentence given to a serial rapist and pointing out the obvious that privilege impacted this. It’s basically Brock Turner again. But hey, they were only girls being raped. “Bints” as you would call them.
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:19:09 GMT
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:22:49 GMT
Cohen sounds like a proper tool. He sounds like a tool for thinking no jail time and 8 years probation is not an acceptable sentence for the rape of 4 teenage girls? Ok.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 9:28:29 GMT
Depends if that's the tariff for juvenile crimes, dunnit?
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Post by mids on Nov 20, 2021 9:29:02 GMT
He was sentenced while an adult is what actually happened.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 9:29:14 GMT
Was he sentenced whe he was an adult or as an adult?
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Post by mids on Nov 20, 2021 9:29:52 GMT
Van doesn't seem to understand the distinction.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 9:30:39 GMT
""If Chris Belter was not a white defendant from a rich and influential family, it is my belief he wouldn't have received the original plea deal, and he would surely have been sentenced to prison," Cohen said in a statement to The Hill." Wanker cry-baby. Do we know if the victims were poor and black? Perhaps they were rich, white and influential. They seem to have Ben able to get a prosexucution years after the fact. Yes - he’s a “wanker cry-baby” for taking issue with an exceptionally lenient sentence given to a serial rapist and pointing out the obvious that privilege impacted this. It’s basically Brock Turner again. But hey, they were only girls being raped. “Bints” as you would call them. Simmer down, silly bint.
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Post by mids on Nov 20, 2021 9:31:23 GMT
Brock Turner? Isn't he in Hawkwind?
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:45:01 GMT
He was sentenced while an adult is what actually happened. Wrong. Well half right, sentenced WHILE and also AS an adult. What is confusing you? The lawyer’s comments are fair. He was denied youthful offender status. He was sentenced as an adult. On what planet is 8 years probation an appropriate sentence for an adult serial rapist?
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:45:50 GMT
Was he sentenced whe he was an adult or as an adult? Sentenced as an adult. This isn’t hard. What is confusing you?
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Post by mids on Nov 20, 2021 9:52:03 GMT
Ah, fair enough. Odd thing to do and possibly explains the light sentence.
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:53:19 GMT
For the bone heads who are struggling to understand the difference between having committed a crime as a youth but being treated as a adult by the justice system: “ Belter was put on two years’ probation by another judge, who has since retired, and given the chance to apply for youthful offender status if he didn’t violate the terms of his probation, The Buffalo News reported. But he admitted last month to installing software on his computer that would bypass a block that would prevent him from viewing pornography, the newspaper reported. He told his probation officer he has been watching porn since he was 7. Murphy denied Belter youthful offender status due to the violation. “The assumption when Judge Murphy denied youthful offender status was that Chris Belter would receive prison time,” Cohen said.“ 7news.com.au/news/north-america/young-us-man-from-rich-and-influential-family-dodges-jail-time-for-rape-of-four-teens--c-4615676.ampWhat’s scary is that if he had retained his youthful offender status and been sentenced in that manner then the sentence would be even more lenient.
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Post by mids on Nov 20, 2021 9:55:49 GMT
Also, "third degree rape". Dunno what that is but it presumably attracts a lighter sentence than first degree.
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 20, 2021 9:55:58 GMT
Ah, fair enough. Odd thing to do and possibly explains the light sentence. How would sentencing him as an adult explain the sentence? It would explain it if he retained his young offender status but 8 years seems awfully light for what is being viewed as a an adult by the courts.* Which brings us back to his wealthy, influential parents. *I would also argue that no jail time is still incredibly light for a 16/17 year old, who rapes four teenage girls over separate occasions. Even if that was the youth offender sentence it sends the message that rape isn’t all that big a deal. Example #2,457 of rape culture at work.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 13:50:07 GMT
What about the wealthy, influential victims' parents?
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Post by mids on Nov 20, 2021 17:50:34 GMT
I expect they're black too. If they were white there'd never have been a trial.
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 20, 2021 17:54:37 GMT
There certainly wouldn't have been a trial if both parties had been poor and black. That much is a safe bet.
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Post by Repat Van on Nov 21, 2021 0:23:08 GMT
What about the wealthy, influential victims' parents? Whut are you waffling on about? Why would the parents of the victims be relevant or is this you on some weird victim blaming track again. The rapists parents however may have a trial of their own to answer giving the allegations that they partook in grooming of girls for their son to rape. But your misogyny is causing you to be more irate at the lawyer’s comments, and the victims families than the fact 4 girls were violated and their rapist escaped with a slap on the wrist. Undoubtedly if he were Muslim you may care more. Or is this just you once again showing that you think sexual violence is natural and innate to white men (and no big deal when committed by white men.)
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Post by perrykneeham on Nov 21, 2021 6:42:29 GMT
Quite, quite mental.
Can you not follow a line of reason?
Inasmuch as the defender was said to have benefited from being white, wealthy and from an influential family, what do we know of the victims' families? It quite possible - likely, in fact - that the victims were from the same social group as the perp: wealthy, white and influential.
Not too hard, that. Even for you.
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