The SNP

[perrykneeham]

Thing is that you can no longer tell a Scotsman from a Scotswoman without a kilt either. You're not allowed to make that call.

[Repat Van]

Apr 17, 2024 19:02:35 GMT mids said:

What a chump.

There is nothing wrong with this. He is correct.

[Repat Van]

Apr 17, 2024 20:05:59 GMT mids said:

That a man can't tell a woman from a man in a dress? <awaits jokes about Scottish men and Scottish women looking the same. Also kilts etc>

It’s amazing you think that all trans women are easily identifiable.


How silly.

It’s funny how people claim you can always “tell” if a woman is trans but simultaneously criticise women who do not disclose their trans identity for “tricking” men.

[mids]

You can't tell a man in a dress from a woman? How queer.

[moggyonspeed]

Apr 17, 2024 20:53:43 GMT mids said:

You can't tell a man in a dress from a woman? How queer.

Physiologically, one more than likely can.

For example, the hands, the blood supply to them, and the thenar eminence (the muscular bulge where the base of the thumb meets the rest of the hand) are more pronounced in males than females, and this is very difficult to treat with hormone therapy, surgery or other interventions. If this were not the case, then the web would not be as replete as it is with posts to, from and about trans women and their efforts to hide, mask or disguise the size of their hands.

Btw - please don't shoot the messenger here; Mrs. Mogg is a physiotherapist, and this stuff is meat & drink to her.

[mids]

Well, your mate Humza doesn't think it's possible to tell them apart. Odd because most men can tell with the merest of glances who is a woman and how attractive she is.

[moggyonspeed]

Not my mate, mate.

You haven't yet accessed your Dosette box this morning, have you?

[mids]

Dosette?

[mids]

Astonishing! Your mate has done something right. Stopped etc. Still, well done Humza.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/04/18/snp-pauses-subscription-of-puberty-blockers-in-wake-of-cass/

[moggyonspeed]

“The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read” - Mark Twain

[mids]

That's the sort of thing one of my mates would say.

[perrykneeham]

Is your friend a crewman on a 19th century paddlesteamer?

[moggyonspeed]

His friend is a 19th century paddle-steamer.

[Repat Van]

Apr 18, 2024 8:12:52 GMT moggyonspeed said:

Apr 17, 2024 20:53:43 GMT mids said:

You can't tell a man in a dress from a woman? How queer.

Physiologically, one more than likely can.

For example, the hands, the blood supply to them, and the thenar eminence (the muscular bulge where the base of the thumb meets the rest of the hand) are more pronounced in males than females, and this is very difficult to treat with hormone therapy, surgery or other interventions. If this were not the case, then the web would not be as replete as it is with posts to, from and about trans women and their efforts to hide, mask or disguise the size of their hands.

Btw - please don't shoot the messenger here; Mrs. Mogg is a physiotherapist, and this stuff is meat & drink to her.

Lots of women have big hands and big feet.

Lots of men have small hands and small feet.

Or are we saying the men who claim to have been “tricked” by trans women are lying?

And why are people so confused by some cis gender women insisting they are really men?

[Repat Van]

Apr 17, 2024 20:53:43 GMT mids said:

You can't tell a man in a dress from a woman? How queer.

You can’t.

Loads of people can’t.

Put Treechada Patcharat, Trace Lysett or Hunter Schafer (ok maybe not Schafer….) in front of most people and they would be none the wiser. Conversely a lot of people insist they can “tell” Michelle Obama is “really a man”.

Most people have no idea unless it’s very obvious.

Although if your point is accurate and every single trans woman on the planet is immediately clockable then men claiming to have been “tricked” are lying.

Can’t have it both ways.

[mids]

I can. The Cass review has made you enraged and hysterical. Science offends you.

[Repat Van]

Apr 18, 2024 13:47:45 GMT mids said:

I can. The Cass review has made you enraged and hysterical. Science offends you.

You’re lying.

[flatandy]

Even if this is true - and frankly, I've no idea if it is - Humza is still right. If someone believes they're threatening a woman, then that's driven by misogyny. The fact that the misogynistic threatener didn't know to look at the trans womans hands is irrelevant to his point.

[mids]

True on all 3 points.

[Repat Van]

Apr 18, 2024 8:19:20 GMT mids said:

Well, your mate Humza doesn't think it's possible to tell them apart. Odd because most men can tell with the merest of glances who is a woman and how attractive she is.

And yet men get tricked by trans women and accuse some cis women of being “really men”.

Interesting. Very interesting….