Hell in a handcart....

[perrykneeham]

Also, I think you have the civil law option the wrong way round, as the burden of proof is waaaaay lower. Also, a finding against the male officer would almost certainly kill his career.

[mids]

"passage"
<snigger>

[flatandy]

May 14, 2024 14:15:31 GMT perrykneeham said:

The RN didn't agree, in fact, what they said is that there was insufficient evidence that such a thing had happened.

That does seem to be the problem. The RN would rather protect its senior officers (who took longer to promote and will be harder to replace and who have friends across the top brass) and pretend there's not a problem. I have little faith that the RN saying there's insufficient evidence means there was always insufficient evidence.

[perrykneeham]

Nah, it doesn't work like that. The provost mob are pretty sharp on that sort of thing these days, and for every chum that matey might have, he'll have twice as many looking to f**k him over.

[perrykneeham]

Also, we don't know if he is really a Senior Officer, or just an officer who was senior to her. Two very different things. Sounds like the incident's buggered his career either way. Thou shalt not mix thy rod and thy staff ....

[perrykneeham]

What a bloody shambles.....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2lelew1jy9o.amp

[perrykneeham]

Mental, absolutely batshit mental.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ck772z2832go

[mids]

They could just AI it.

[perrykneeham]

Haha. True. Honestly, you'd think that what's left of our forces are there just to wank off the nostalgia junkies.

[mids]

A ceremony would be fine but a commemorative parachute drop seems a bit much. Why don't they flatten Caen in remembrance while they're at it?

[voice]

Yeah celebrating violent anti-facists must really upset you.

[flatandy]

Having a memorial parachute drop is laughable. Not
Having any spare planes is laughable.

[perrykneeham]

There shouldn't be more than a couple of spare planes. There should be enough for operation demand. The people who would understand that best would be the D-day veterans.

[perrykneeham]

Is Paula Vennells the new Mary Bale?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-69042928

[perrykneeham]

"Ex-Post Office boss Paula Vennells has been in tears at the inquiry into the Horizon scandal
She broke down when acknowledging that what she told MPs and colleagues in one meeting about prosecutions of sub-postmasters wasn’t true
She apologised at the beginning of her evidence and said her answers to questions 'will be difficult to listen to.'"

No,it will be difficult for her to say in public, but I suspect we know what she's going to say. The only issue here is whether she knew what she said was untrue at the time. I notice the wording is quite exact.

[mids]

I've not been following the latest developments very closely but she seems to be the woman of the hour. There must be others that deserve the pitchfork treatment too though.

[perrykneeham]

Absolutely, but let's face it, nothing bad is going to happen to any of them. That's not the way these things work.

[mids]

Not usually but maybe things are changing. Mind you if there were serious consequences for her, there might also have to be similar consequences for infected blood senior NHS people and that definitely can't happen.

[perrykneeham]

Quite. The public sector usually fight tooth and nail until the people responsible are safely out of reach of justice. Either dead or temporarily senile.

[mids]

Vicar too.