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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2009 10:56:32 GMT
This thread makes me very, very sad.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 26, 2009 11:01:47 GMT
It would be an excellent idea if the day became a commemoration of all who have died in numbers, anywhere in the world, as a result of discrimination. 'Discrimination' - what a ridiulous word. 'It's discrimination!' Of course it is, and it's perfectly natural to discriminate. What isn't natural is to murder people.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 26, 2009 11:51:10 GMT
Maybe the antisemitic bishop should learn to read the meticulous records kept by his fellow Nazis. Or maybe we should stop paying attention to the very tiny minority if idiots who make such statements. Those that deny the mass murders occured are a small minority. But strangely they tend to be wheeled out, highlighted and given publicity almost as frequently as the event itself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 12:00:59 GMT
When one person dies it's a tragedy, when one million dies it's a statistic. Not sure who said that, but it's true.
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Post by cobblers on Jan 26, 2009 13:15:48 GMT
Attributed to Stalin Joyce.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2009 14:09:12 GMT
Cheers!
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 26, 2009 14:14:50 GMT
This thread makes me very, very sad.
me too andy..... however, tarrants torrent makes me feel physically ill
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Post by mids on Jan 26, 2009 14:18:09 GMT
I'm sorry if I seem insensitive. The point of having such a day set aside like this is to remember the mass murders and to resolve they must never be repeated. But the reality is this is just another day of Jew-Pity. Another day when we are forced, once again, to remember the Jews who were murdered. Oh, and a few other irrelevants. Not anyone else. Not to learn from it. Not to resolve never to let it happen again. Just another feel sorry for Jews day and let the Nazi Zionists off the hook once again. The same Nazi Zionists who are running the largest concentration camp in history. The same Nazi Zionists who are repeatedly involved in mass murder of non-Jews. The same Nazi Zionists whose supporters, without criticism from those Nazi Zionists call for mass killing of Palestinians. Whose supporters accuse the British of complicity. The day is a farce simply because we have never, not even once, made any effort to even try to achieve the prime objective, that is to learn from the murders of WW2. The hatred still exists. The hatred is respectable. The mass murders are still happening. But now the Nazi is calling himself a Jew. So, at least now, he's telling the truth. I think you should be worried about your raving lunacy. Insensitivity is the least of your problems.
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Post by dwad on Jan 26, 2009 14:27:20 GMT
I'm sorry if I seem insensitive. The point of having such a day set aside like this is to remember the mass murders and to resolve they must never be repeated. But the reality is this is just another day of Jew-Pity. Another day when we are forced, once again, to remember the Jews who were murdered. Oh, and a few other irrelevants. Not anyone else. Not to learn from it. Not to resolve never to let it happen again. Just another feel sorry for Jews day and let the Nazi Zionists off the hook once again. The same Nazi Zionists who are running the largest concentration camp in history. The same Nazi Zionists who are repeatedly involved in mass murder of non-Jews. The same Nazi Zionists whose supporters, without criticism from those Nazi Zionists call for mass killing of Palestinians. Whose supporters accuse the British of complicity. The day is a farce simply because we have never, not even once, made any effort to even try to achieve the prime objective, that is to learn from the murders of WW2. The hatred still exists. The hatred is respectable. The mass murders are still happening. But now the Nazi is calling himself a Jew. So, at least now, he's telling the truth. The irony of this post is that it is its existance that perpetuates that which it criticises. If people like you didn't make statements like this I suspect Israel would feel more secure in its future and act in a less bullying manner than it does. But in living memory people that spoke like this, like Hamas and like Iran tried to eliminate all Jews. I can understand (if not agree with) why Israel gets so bullish.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 26, 2009 14:35:23 GMT
Well thank you dawd.
My claim that the Holocaust Memorial Day is about Israel and nothing to do with remembering the millions who died or to learn from it is confirmed.
Your advice is that, if I and others stop criticising Israel, ignore the concentration camps, the mass murders, the enslavement of people in Palestine and Lebanon. then Israel will stop doing it.
It's gratifing to realise that, after all, it is I and others like me who dare to stand up to the Nazi bullies that are responsible for the Nazi bullies.
My father fought in WW2 against the Japaneese. My mother was a nurse in London during the blitz. I look forward to your astonishing logic being used to demonstrate that they were responsible for the murders.
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Post by silkbreeze on Jan 26, 2009 14:40:54 GMT
there is a difference between criticising israeli's politics and your condemnation of jews ....by the way,the israeli army has jews, christians and druze
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Post by tarrant on Jan 26, 2009 14:45:33 GMT
I made no condemnation of Jews.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2009 14:47:08 GMT
This thread makes me very, very sad. me too andy..... however, tarrants torrent makes me feel physically ill That's just typical jew self-pity [/tarrant]
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Post by tarrant on Jan 26, 2009 14:53:44 GMT
Well, I'm sure the physical heath of the mothers who have to pick up the pieces of the children who've been slaughtered by the Nazi Zionist forces of 'freedom' won't be feeling particularly well either.
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Post by tarrant on Jan 26, 2009 14:54:48 GMT
But remember, the behaviour of the Nazi Zionists is all the fault of those who criticise them.
(Acording to dawd)
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2009 14:56:51 GMT
"Nazi Zionists"? You really are an utter, utter tool, aren't you? There are many things wrong with right wing Israeli policy, particularly towards Gaza, but "Nazi Zionists"? Get a fcuking grip, man.
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Post by dwad on Jan 26, 2009 15:00:12 GMT
Well thank you dawd. Your advice is that, if I and others stop criticising Israel, ignore the concentration camps, the mass murders, the enslavement of people in Palestine and Lebanon. then Israel will stop doing it. No, please do criticise Israel. I will support you in reasoned criticism. But to claim that Zionists are running the biggest concentration camp in history, comparing it to Auschwitz, is stupendously wide of the mark and contributes to Israel's feeling of victimisation. I am not saying that Israel's heavy handedness is your fault. I am saying that it must be pretty easy for them to feel victimised by people making ludicrous Nazi comparisons and thus react so brutally to their attackers. As long as their enemies hyperbolise their crimes and desires to see them eradicated (such as Hamas) the more embattled they will feel.
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Post by mids on Jan 26, 2009 15:09:35 GMT
Nazionists
How about that for a neogolism? Slightly awkward to say but it might catch on.
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Post by dwad on Jan 26, 2009 15:11:04 GMT
Nazionists How about that for a neogolism? Slightly awkward to say but it might catch on. QUick. Register it. Sell it to the BBC or something.
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Post by flatandy on Jan 26, 2009 15:11:23 GMT
neogolism is a neologism.
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